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[Editor's Note: This 1991 interview took place in Yelm, Washington between Al Bielek and unnamed reporters working for The Sovereign Scribe of McKenna, Washington. Al recounts how he and his brother Duncan were transported by a Time Tunnel machine located at Montauk, Long Island into the interior of an underground facility on Mars in the late 70's. The United States, possibly Russia, and certain aliens already had bases established on the surface of Mars in 1969 in keeping with the provisions of an agreement between the aliens and the US called Alternative 3. The US personnel on the ground, however, couldn't gain access to these interior Martian facilities because they lacked the heavy equipment needed to force an entry. Possessing advanced computers and exact positioning coordinates for Mars, the Time-Space tunnel machine set up at Montauk could place Al and his brother at any location on or inside the planet to within a few inches of computer coordinates. Al and Duncan made a number of "authorized" trips to Mars with the Time Tunnel and two "unauthorized" trips on their own in which they were later discovered and taken off the Mars tunnel project ...Ken Adachi]
Al Bielek, noted lecturer on the famous "Philadelphia Experiment" and
the time travel/mind control
SS: Sovereign Scribe
AB: Al Bielek
SS: Regarding your experience on Mars you walked through the time
tunnel, you take a step and
AB: Well I was not on the surface of Mars. We were in the underground.
The story goes back to the
After they were on the surface which was about 1969, they found that there
where entrances to the
SS: Why two?
AB: To corroborate what the other one saw and also in case there
was any problems in the
So they sent us and we went up there in the underground. [Using the Montauk
SS: What did they look like? How big were they?
AB: Typically 6,7,8 foot tall, stone, gems embedded in them and so forth.
SS. These were of human-like people?
AB: Yes. They were quite well preserved. Then we found archives.
We found a lot of scientific
SS: What did you find out?
AB: He as the one that read them. I couldn't read them.
SS. He didn't tell you?
AB: No. Well he did at the time but I can't remember any of it now.
It's a very strange memory. On
But I do remember some of the other installations we saw down there. They
had very odd, large
SS: Did you see ice under the surface like in Total Recall?
AB: Ice? No.
SS: If I remember the Movie, that's what they melted a lot of ice to create the atmosphere.
AB: It was not ice under there. There were oxygen generators and
they also had some storage. There
SS: The lighting that you mentioned. What was that like?
AB: Unknown form of illumination, after we found out how to turn
it on. Some of the power generators
SS: Have you any information on the face on Mars?
AB: Not that I remember in the underground. There's more than one
face on Mars, by the way. They
SS: Do you have any feelings about being on Mars? What were your general impressions?
AB: We were digging in there remains of an old civilization that preceded
ours and it felt very peculiar.
From what I understand of it, a number of the Martians survived whatever
the attack was on the
SS: In Rod Steiger's book he spoke of March 18th, 1990, as being
important dates in the history of
AB: Well, basically what had happened was a very strange story. In
January 1990 Psi-Corps received
They found themselves, after that infusion of new equipment, after learning
how to use it, with the
Back in November of 1989, Duncan had told me, he said that I would have
the proof of the
You see his father had been a senior scientist in the Navy working on the
Philadelphia project. And
One week prior to the visitation with Preston he gets a knock on his door.
Government agents. "We
So he started calling his friends to see who could take cafe of this and
take it off of his hands because
He goes over and hands him the file and the film and tells him the story
about his father and the
Preston in a panic tried to get a hold of anybody he knew that day, including
myself, I was not
So this comes down. Preston can't get a hold of me. Finally when he did
get through (I called him) he
In any case, the next day, from information I had, there was a big rumble
in the Psi-Corps, and they
SS: Who melted the equipment down?
AB: Alien there's none ... let us put it this way - extra terrestrials.
SS: Do you know who they are?
AB: Yes, but I will not say.
SS: Are these the same ET's that Preston said melted down the buzzsaw
antenna at McArthur airport
AB: Yes, basically. And they took care of four sites in the US.
one at Fort Meade and there were
In the meantime they contacted NASA to try to get NASA to give up their
psychic agents, not
But the Psi-Corps remained dissolved until ... they tried to recruit new
people and they did pick up a
SS: So they're building it is back up again?
AB: They've been trying to build it back up. Then before the beginning
of the so-called Mid-East War
Now they had a little bit of a shock because the new group tried to bring
somebody back into their
SS: So they waked out a second time?
AB: That's right. That's the information I have. And the government
is left holding the bag once more.
Psi-Corps organization is not vicious, they are not vicious people, they're
very well trained, sensitives
SS: They could dematerialize them?
AB: Yes they could. They could start a fire in a filing cabinet a couple
thousand miles away if they
SS: They could plant disinformation also?
AB: Theoretically they could. They could transport small objects.
They had their psycho-kinetic ability
They were also very heavily brainwashed and very heavily let us say, indoctrinated
in the government's
Preston saw the police reports, the F.B.I. file reports because the police
can came into one of the
They also stole a few pieces of government hardware in the process including
... I might as well say it...
SS: Kind of park themselves in another...
AB: Park themselves in another universe, so to speak, parallel to our
own, very similar to ours as I've
SS: Who runs the shuttle?
AB: Presumably the Alpha Centauri Government, but I don't know.
But it's on a regular basis twice a
SS: What is their body form like?
AB: Alpha Centauri? Like humans, exactly the same. There's a much
lower population on their planet.
That's a very interesting little side issue and our government doesn't
like it particularly but there is sonic
SS: C being the speed of light?
AB: C is the speed of light, to the 8th power. That's so fast they
can literally communicate clear across
So Einstein was wrong in one sense. Nothing can go faster than the speed
of light? It can. It's long
SS: Speaking of aliens and technology, do you know which aliens Tesla talked to?
AB: The Pleiadians basically that was one of his principle communication
groups. Also a group called
SS: You mentioned Reichian Programming in your lectures. How would one know if one was hit by it?
AB: You wouldn't after it was over. They pulled this system on
Duncan once for certain maybe more
Consequently you can remove buried information in the subconscious, reprogram
the person, do
They can do this to anyone they want. They grab them physically and take
them off to one of the
When they do this number of the reprogramming it's done by government personnel.
It is not normally
SS: They physically snatched him?
AB: Oh yes. We had quite a time tracking this down that one Sunday.
But they did do that. It's based
SS: Before going on, how do you feel about all this? Do you
want to get revenge on these guys?
AB: I would love to get back at some of ... Well, where do I stand?
Number one, I feel it's long since
SS: You sound angry. Are you?
AB: Oh yeah. I'm very angry about it because they wrecked my life,
they wrecked Duncan's life, they
The massive redistribution, if you want to put it that way, of people,
reprogramming them is something
( Interview provided courtesy of QUANTUM COMMUNICATIONS and The Soverign Scribe).
The Sovreign Scribe
Originating url: http://www.freezone.org/Al_Bielek/e_conv02.htm