Latest MMS Newsletter Explains How MMS or CDS Water can Lower PSA Numbers and Resolve the Symptoms of Prostate Cancer
[Editor's Note: MMS (Master Mineral Solution) or CDS water (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) can address most health problems, whether serious or minor. Just finding out about it and coming to realize just how inexpensive and effective it is in healing just about any disease condition is the biggest hurdle to jump. Most people find it too hard to accept that an oxidizer as simple and inexpensive as MMS can knock down the organisms and microbes that cause disease, and in doing so, eradicate the disease. From the information presented below, you will learn that the PSA test (Prostate Specific Antigen) is not a 100% reliable indicator of cancer, as some men have elevated PSA without cancer, and some have a normal range PSA test, yet still can have prostate cancer. CDS water is easy to make from MMS and seems to work just as well as MMS, yet without the stomach discomfort that many people experience with taking MMS. .Read my article on CDS water to find out how simple and easy it is to make. If you are only hearing about MMS for the first time, then read this basic tutorial on the science of MMS to learn more.
All of the testimonials given below are amazing to read. The third one from 72 year old Truman McKillip is typical in how he cured his prostate cancer with MMS. After wisely refusing to have his prostate removed (by two different doctors) and refusing radiation, Truman wisely started on MMS and saw steady improvement, eventually getting off all drugs (incluing 16 years on blood pressure medication) and is today cancer free. Anyone can achieve the same results if you but stop listening to the uninformed, arrogant, self assured High Priests of Orthodox Medicine and merely invest the time to read, learn and try MMS or CDS water yourself. ...Ken]
Many men worldwide are suffering, (both mentally and physically), after being told that their “PSA” level is above “normal”. The results of the blood tests also include the so-called normal ranges of PSA for each age group. Here is what was included in the PSA lab results.
40 to 49 yrs: 0.0 a 2.5 (Normal Range)
50 to 59 yrs: 0.0 a 3.5
60 to 69 yrs: 0.0 a 4.5
70 to 79 yrs: 0.0 a 6.5
• The PSA test measures the blood level of PSA, a protein that is produced by the prostate gland. The higher a man’s PSA level, the more likely it is that he has prostate cancer. However, there are additional reasons for having an elevated PSA level, and some men who have prostate cancer do not have elevated PSA.
• The PSA test has been widely used to screen men for prostate cancer. It is also used to monitor men who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer to see if their cancer has reoccured (come back) after initial treatment or is responding to therapy.
• Some advisory groups now recommend avoiding the use of the PSA test to screen for prostate cancer because the benefits, if any, are small and the harms can be substantial. None recommend its use without a detailed discussion of the pros and cons of using the test.
What is the PSA test?
Prostate-specific antigen, or PSA, is a protein produced by cells of the prostate gland. The PSA test measures the level of PSA in a man’s blood. For this test, a blood sample is sent to a laboratory for analysis. The results are usually reported as nanograms of PSA per milliliter (ng/mL) of blood.
The blood level of PSA is often elevated in men with prostate cancer, and the PSA test was originally approved by the FDA in 1986 to monitor the progression of prostate cancer in men who had already been diagnosed with the disease. In 1994, the FDA approved the use of the PSA test in conjunction with a digital rectal exam (DRE) to test asymptomatic men for prostate cancer. Men who report prostate symptoms often undergo PSA testing (along with a DRE) to help doctors determine the nature of the problem.
In addition to prostate cancer, a number of benign (not cancerous) conditions can cause a man’s PSA level to rise. The most frequent benign prostate conditions that cause an elevation in PSA level are prostatitis (inflammation of the prostate) and benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) (enlargement of the prostate). There is no evidence that prostatitis or BPH leads to prostate cancer, but it is possible for a man to have one or both of these conditions and to develop prostate cancer as well.
What is a normal PSA test result?
There is no specific normal or abnormal level of PSA in the blood. In the past, most doctors considered PSA levels of 4.0 ng/mL and lower as normal. Therefore, if a man had a PSA level above 4.0 ng/mL, doctors would often recommend a prostate biopsy to determine whether prostate cancer was present.
However, more recent studies have shown that some men with PSA levels below 4.0 ng/mL have prostate cancer and that many men with higher levels do not have prostate cancer (1). In addition, various factors can cause a man’s PSA level to fluctuate.
For example, a man’s PSA level often rises if he has prostatitis or a urinary tract infection. Prostate biopsies and prostate surgery also increase PSA level. Conversely, some drugs—including finasteride and dutasteride, which are used to treat BPH—lower a man’s PSA level. PSA level may also vary somewhat across testing laboratories
??o_O??So why are they doing these tests at all? Is it to make men get a biopsy to start the cancer ball rolling? Sounds like a plan to me!
Reasons for a Falsely Elevated PSA
Potential reasons for a falsely elevated PSA include:
1. -recent sexual activity or ejaculation 2. -recent digital rectal exam 3. -recent prostatitis (infection or inflammation of the prostate) 4. -recent urinary tract infection (UTI) 5. -recent placement of a catheter into the bladder (sometimes used to drain urine from the bladder in men who have severe difficulties urinating) 6. -recent cystoscopy (a thin instrument with a camera that is inserted into the bladder) 7. -vigorous or extended bicycle riding
1. Prostate Cancer - PSA gone down [Posted : 05-15-2014] 1
"All medication has some form of side effect, as does MMS, but the benefits of MMS are amazing. I was told that I had prostate cancer and that my P.S.A. reading was 16 where the normal reading is between zero and four. After just 6 weeks of MMS, my P.S.A. reading had gone down and my doctor was amazed at the improvement.
Other benefits of MMS are Hair and Nail growth, also my little injuries seemed to heal much quicker than normal.
I would recommend you give MMS a try."
Tobias Laube writting for Kenneth. G. Webster from Denia/Spain (25.Jan..2010)
2. Update on Ronnie's Prostate Cancer (5-2014) [Posted : 05-10-2014]
AN UPDATE ON RONNIE'S PROSTATE CANCER (5-2014)
I thought maybe some of you readers might be wondering about how Ronnie is doing with his prostate problem by now.
I will start by laying a little groundwork: As you can read in the first articles "Ronnie's Cancer Ordeal" it has been almost two years since he was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. After about two years of moderate pain, urinating often, vomiting, pain and weight loss, etc he finally consented to see a doctor.
The doctor told him he could help him live for five years with treatment. He listed several methods of treatment including radiation, chemo, seeding, etc which Ronnie refused at that time. He wanted more time to see what other options were available. The doctor then explained the only thing he had left to offer was "hormone therapy" to keep the cells from growing. We could take the one month, three month or six month shot, which would not cure cancer but would put it in remission for that period of time. Since we were two months from going back to FL for five months we decided the six month shot would be better and would give us time to decide what else we could be doing. Much later we found that there is a prescription used by women to help with their sex problems called "Premarin" and it's made from "natural ingredients" which is nothing but mare's pee [urine]. That is also what these shots are made of that the doctor gave to Ronnie.
The doctor told Ronnie that he would experience some hot flashes something like women do during menopause, for a few weeks, and that they would gradually fade away. Well, it's been almost two years (20 months) and he still has them every day, and especially during the night.
In spite of all that, he is still (age 74) going strong, thank you God, he no longer has prostate pain, constant urination, vomiting, or weight loss. He is back up from 135 lb to 150 lbs. Since we have been back here in IN he has been working hard every day on problem rentals and our own place. The only health problems he has now is working too hard. Along with the hot flashes, he has muscle spasms and leg cramps at night (from working into the night).
Some have asked how or what Ronnie did when he was taking MMS prior to his healing. The answer to that is: First we ordered the book by Jim Humble and we both read it through to see what part we would need to use for our individual problems. There are so many different needs and diseases and different more effective ways to treat each one. That's why it is so important to order the book before you try using MMS.
Once we determined what we needed to do, we got on the internet and ordered a bottle of MMS1, and a bottle of 50% citric acid solution. We also ordered a supply of MMS2 in caps. He started out mixing one drop of each, waited 20 seconds and add water, according to the book's direction. You can also add a little juice or sprite for taste. Every day, every hour, eight times a day, for two months. He increased the equal amount of drops until he settled on eight drops each time. He also took MMS2 between times, 3 times a day. Once he discovered it was working he kept at it very aggressively until he was sure he was healed. It's hard to believe but he was healed for under $100. And that included the cost of the book. Just think how much it would have cost if he had gone the other way, and even then may never got completely well!
Anyone who starts on this regiment needs to make up their mind to be consistent and stick with it till you get results. We, both, take it a couple times a day just for maintenance. We think everyone over 50 should take it for the same reason.
We keep spreading the good news to anyone interested in this Master Mineral Solution that heals cancers, and so many other health problems. Almost everyone knows someone who knows someone that would benefit from using MMS. Help us spread the news; you may save a life. We strongly believe that if we knew then what we know now our daughter, Sheila, who died with breast cancer, would still be alive today. She tried everything she knew, even to going to the cancer center in California. She wound up suffering through radiation and chemo, which did her more harm than good. That is one reason Ronnie said no to all those options offered to him. Thank God he did!
by Rhoda Foust
For more information visit our web page at: http://foust.info to read the whole story, and much, much more. We have nothing to sell, nor ask for any donations.
[Ken Adachi Note: I've added the testimonial seen below taken from Rhonda's web site. The "minerals" she's referring to near the end of the testimonial is MMS1 which consists of 28% Sodium Chlorite mixed with an equal amount of 50% Citric Acid. Jim Humble used the name "mineral" supplement when he first went public with MMS to keep the FDA goons from breathing down his neck. Sodium Chlorite activated with Citric Acid releases chlorine dioxide gas which acts as an oxidizing agent, or oxidizer. An oxidizer pulls electrons from the outer orbital ring of whatever substance that it's acting upon and adds those stolen electrons to its own structure. This is how pathogenic organisms are disabled by MMS.]
Ronnie’s Prostate Cancer Ordeal by Rhoda Foust
How he, five months later, is cancer free.
Sept. 2012: I sat waiting for Ronnie to come out of the doctor's private examining. room where he was to get a prostate cancer biopsy. When he came out he was in a lot of pain. “I couldn't go through with it, I'll have to go to the hospital”, he said. “The tests show I definitely do have prostate cancer. The Gleason test showed from one to ten, I am a seven, which means the cancer is ready to get aggressive.”
After the biopsy, done in the hospital, it agreed with the doctor's verdict; there was no doubt, Ronnie had a very serious cancer problem. This is his story; I won't go into how that made me feel. We had already suffered through the loss of son, Cliff, both our Mothers, and a daughter, Sheila, who had died from breast cancer, all within the span of four years. During which time I spent fourteen days in the hospital with massive blood clots on both lungs, and later a frozen shoulder which led to surgery. During the same period, our Indiana home was broken into. We fought depression. Now there was to be a new problem, Ronnie had to make a decision. Since Ronnie insisted on no chemo, the doctor gave us three choices: surgery, radiation, or a six month hormone therapy shot.
We settled for the shot which was supposed to keep the cancer from spreading for six months. It could only be taken two more times, at which time the body would become immune to it . Without any other treatment he may have at least five years of life after that. We grieved for a couple weeks and then started planning to go back to Florida for the winter. First, we attended our yearly religious festival, “The Feast of Tabernacles” and requested the prayers of the many brethren there. Prayers were also offered up to God in our own Home Bible study group. When we got to Florida our friends there begin praying for us, too. Needless to say, we did a lot of praying.
Ronnie continued struggling with vomiting, frequent painful urination, and discomfort. Added to his other problems he started having hot flashes, from the shot [female hormone], that was a constant irritation. In the meantime, we started searching the internet for alternate solutions. Nothing seemed reliable until our daughter, Tammy, introduced the web site of Jim Humble to us. We had studied several others, but this one really got our attention. We felt like God was answering so many of our prayers. We sent for the book and the minerals Jim introduced [MMS]. Ronnie mixed the inexpensive liquid combinations himself, and drank it as instructed every day. Gradually he begin to feel better. The symptoms left. We all rejoiced. Before we left Florida for Indiana he went for a last check up there in Feb. 2013. The doctor seemed surprised that his prostate had shrunk and made the comment that it was really small and questioned as to whether Ronnie had ever had prostate cancer. But the records were there!
When Ronnie told him he had been taking a mineral called Miracle Mineral Solution that enhanced the immune system, the doctor commented, “Oh that will never work”. Can you believe that? When the results of his blood test came back his P.S.A. test had dropped from 7.6 to 1.2, and is still there. He had one more test by the same office that had given him the six month shot. The doctor was so impressed with the result of the P.S.A. test that he asked to see the book, and made the comment, “I'll have to look into that!” He scheduled Ronnie for another appointment in three months, and didn't even examine him. I think he just wants to see for himself if it's really going to last. But we know Ronnie is cancer free!
Some may want more information on this mineral, if so, you need to go to the website “WWW.Jim Humble.org. I get a news letter from them every month on my e-mail. He is doing amazing things in Africa where he is free to work. This mixture of minerals strengthens the immune system so strongly that it will kill many germ related diseases, not just cancer. There is a long list of diseases that it will get rid of if done right. The only thing I can think of that it won't heal is something like broken bones, damaged nerves, dementia, weakness, etc. If you or someone you know that is debilitated with a serious disease spread the word, you may save a life. Look for the newsletter from Jim as God's answer to Ronnie's Cancer. It will give you and idea what this man is doing for people.
August 2013 Update on Ronnie's Prostate Cancer [Posted : 08-14-2013]
UPDATE ON RONNIE’S LATEST VISIT TO DOCTORS (8/1/2013)
Ronnie’s last checkup to the doctor who had given him the biopsy for prostate cancer in Oct. of 2012 which showed he did have prostate cancer, and that his Gleason test showed he was seven in the growing stage of from 1 to 10. The only way to find out what the numbers are for this test would be another biopsy. Even the doctor admitted that could be very damaging and unnecessary. After discovering the web site of Jim Humble and taking the mineral MMS (Master Mineral Substance) within two months Ronnie was totally healed of any previous symptoms of cancer. He has visited two cancer treating doctors, twice in Florida and twice in Indiana; neither can find any trace of prostate cancer. Ronnie’s first P.S.A. test was ten point six [10.6], now it is down to one point eight [1.8] . However, he has not gone through this without suffering, at the hands of his practicing physicians. For the sake of time and space; there is a full article on our web page (foust.info) telling how Ronnie’s doctor’s reaction to the latest test results and their advise. To go to the web page, after entering foust.info in your search engine, click on “List of Studies” and look for any article title with Ronnie’s name in it. You may also want to browse around in some of the other studies and/or the 18 chapters of “Novel” about the life of Yeshua (Jesus).
Rhoda & Ron Foust
3. Prostate cancer [Posted : 11-12-2013] [from Truman McKillip ]
Hello, I am a 72 year old male who was diagnosed with prostate cancer last Aug, 2012 by biopsy in Costa Rica. The Dr there wanted to remove the prostate, I declined. When I returned to home in USA, Dr. here wanted to start radiation treatment which I again declined, planning to do herbal treatment and to spend winter in another part of USA. Dr said okay we can wait and see ( watchful waiting). My Psa was 10.2 in Aug. I had it rechecked in Oct. It was 9.8 It seemed to be going in the right direction with herbs. Dr in Costa Rick prescribed Proscar and Dr in USA prescribed Flomax which I took until January 2013.
I contacted a Dr in Springfield, Mo. who wanted the slides from Costa Rica. When I got them and took them to him he said they were not good enough to determine if I in fact had Prostate Cancer. I submitted to another biopsy (not fun) results came back still cancer there although on the Gerson scale it had dropped from total of 6 to 5. He wanted to remove prostate. I again said not yet. I want to do some herbal things to try and defeat the cancer. He said okay, it is your life, but it won't help. But he agreed to watchful waiting again.
I was informed about MMS in January and had some difficulty finding a source of supply. I first ordered from Canada and after more than two weeks, I had not received order. It seems it was held up in customs. I searched further and found a USA source and ordered MMS from them, ln less than a week I received both orders. I began the MMS1 on the old protocol of one drop activated first hour then upped it one drop per hour until at evening time I was up to 9 drops, I had not experienced any problem. Next morning I took 10 drops, waited 30 min. to eat breakfast, then 30 min. later took 11 drops. In very short time I could not get to bathroom fast enough, I upchucked everything I had eaten and had diarrhea. I had to drop back to 4 drops to keep from having diarrhea.
After the first week, I added the MMS2 every other hour for the 10 hrs., starting with 1/4 capsule for one day then 1/2 for next day then third day one full 00 capsule. I was able to ramp up the MMS1 to 8 drops per hour for 10 hours/day. I continued the treatment for full 6 weeks, after returning home from Missouri I had blood drawn and sent to lab for analysis and it came back normal, cancer free. I have had PSA test done in July 2013 and it was 8.4 which is going in right direction. I have much better urine flow than before and less nighttime trips to bathroom. After I had been on MMS for two weeks I dropped off the Flomax and have not had a return of difficulty in urinating.
I had also been on HBP [high blood pressure] medication for about 16 years to control blood pressure. I have been off this medication for over two months and pressure is normal (120/62 pulse 64. I am currently on no prescription medication and feel as long as I have MMS I will no longer be dependent on pharmaceutical drugs.
I cannot thank my son, God and Jim Humble enough for making me aware of the availability of MMS in its different forms, I am in the process of making the CDS solution, I understand it has a better taste and is as effective if not more so than MMS1.
If you have health issues you owe it to yourself to try MMS in its different forms according to recommended protocols.
4. Prostate Cancer [Posted : 10-24-2013]
Here is something that one of forum members (Pebble) posted on his facebook:
Cancer! It’s a frightening word. Not really frightening if you don’t have it or don’t think you could ever contract it, but for those of us who have contracted it...well that’s a different story. What is most frightening is the unknown. The future. Will I die from this? Will it be painful? How long do I have? What about my family? How will they cope? Am I spiritually ready to go? Could I have done something differently to prevent this? What about the bills? Why the conflicting medical opinions? etc etc.
I’ve been fighting prostate cancer for around three years now. When you get a diagnosis you immediately feel apprehensive. Your heart rate goes up. You feel bewildered and immediately ask your doctor for a solution. Options are given and you place yourself in the expert’s hands, trusting that all will be well.
In my case two expensive treatments called HIFU (High Intensity Frequency Ultrasound) failed to kill the cancer. I apparently fell into a 7% failure category based upon tissue density. Of course this potentiality wasn’t shared with me in advance. Only success stories were shared and I was assured all would be well. When HIFU failed for the second time the doctor decided a “wait and see” option was the best. Translation; “I don’t have any other options for killing the cancer so let’s just try and stop its progression and try different things as time passes.”
I’m one that feels a need to do research beyond what I’m told. This led me to explore the world of natural healing. I’ve heard of celebrities who followed this path and who all ended up dead, so initially I wasn’t very hopeful that I would find any solution. Hope? Perhaps. Solution? Probably not. Nevertheless, when your life is in the balance no research is too much. It’s the survival genes kicking in.
Suddenly I found myself empathizing greatly with others going through cancer or illness or facing death. I knew now what facing my own mortality was like. I knew what it’s like to awaken at 3 am in the darkness with swirling thoughts of, worry and apprehension. It drives away the drowsiness. It awakens your need to pray, to plead and to surrender to God. Eventually you sleep but not without a struggle. It usually happens after you’ve begun praying for others who are sick and may need prayers more than you do.
One of the successful gurus for natural healing is a man by the name of Jim Humble. jimhumble.org/basic-science-of-mms-chlorine-dioxide.html He has had remarkable success in curing a multitude of diseases and one of them is cancer. So I began using his instructions but soon realized that I was doing something which completely nullified the protocols I was using. I needed guidance. I ultimately flew to Bulgaria this April where Mary and Doug Jewell have established a wildly successful healing clinic and which uses Humble’s protocols as well as some of their own. Mary had herself, been a stage 4 cancer victim until Doug began using chlorine dioxide protocols [CDS]on her and completely cured her! That was 12 years ago. Since then they have healed hundreds of people with various diseases which modern traditional medicine has no adequate answer for.
I stayed at their mountain lodge/clinic for 3 weeks and watched others being treated as I went through the detox protocols myself. Baths, pills, patches, good nutrition and rest make for very busy days. When I left my new friends, I was armed with plenty of healing solutions. For 6 months I have been diligent with the protocols. At the end of each month I took a PSA blood test which is a general indicator of cancer markers but which has also garnered a lot of pro-con discussions in the medical community as to their efficacy or accuracy.
I hate having to call in to get my PSA test results because I’ve never had a positive report. Each month the scores have worsened and my apprehension increased. I received prayer and support from family, friends and a childhood friend going through lung cancer treatment. Others simply felt I should drop this wild goose chase and return to the sane world of modern medicine. Calmness and apprehension were cyclical but I determined that my best chances for being cured were with natural medicine. Most recommended medicines are designed to hold off cancer progression for a while. The final resort is the chemo and radiation route and the statistics are pretty dismal and so are the side effects. Alternatively the Bulgaria Natural Health Restoration Center has an amazing 90% success rate with patients who have not had chemo and radiation! With those odds I knew I had to stick with it.
Each time my PSA results came in I would immediately Skype Doug and Mary for counsel. Finally, they decided that things were just not adding up as cancer cannot stand up to their protocols. They asked me to obtain two different tests which would give them a more accurate picture of what was happening in my body. I emailed the results to them and within a half hour I got a call from them via Skype. They asked me to look at the normal range for both tests and to tell them what my scores were. The one test averages are 0.0 to 15.5 and I did NOT want to be above 15! “Take a look at where you are”, Mary said. I was at a 1.0! At the very lowest end. The second test was split in two parts. The normal range is 348 - 1197 and I was at 453! The next score’s average was 6.6 -18.1 and my score was 8.7! All scores show I am at the very low end of normal!
Then Mary gave me the best news I’ve heard in a long,long time. YOU ARE CANCER FREE! What an amazing gift! Immediate thanks to God are due. A huge hug for Doug and Mary who now are life friends. Big thanks to all of you who have followed me in the journey and have prayed for me. That meant a lot to me and I won’t forget it! I don’t quite know how I feel now. Maybe it hasn’t really sunk in yet. Actually, maybe it has. When I woke up last night I didn’t toss and turn. I just smiled, said thank you, and went back to sleep.
5. Prostate Cancer Healed in Three Months [Posted: 06-19-2013]
To Jim Humble’s group:
About ten months ago Ronnie was diagnosed with Gleason scale 7 Prostate Cancer. This is a fast growing number. His PSA number was 11.6. He was told if he didn't take drastic action he had, at the most, five years to live. He decided not to make a decision at that time but did take a 6 month harmon therapy shot. We found Jim on the internet a month later. What has happened next is on our web site "www.foust.info", along with Jim's News Letter "Malaria Overcome". We have been telling everyone about the results of MMS. We also put info on my
"Face Book.com/Rhoda Foust". Ronny is now cancer free and his PSA is down to 1.2 Our family and friends are so impressed some are buying your book and even buying some for friends. One doctor told him, after it had already worked, that it "would never work." Another Dr. wanted to see the book and even wrote down where to send for it. To read the results of how MMS aided in Ronnie's cure go to "www.foust.info" and click on "Personal" and select "Ronnie's Prostate Cancer Ordeal". To read Jim's news Letter select "God's Answer to Ronnie - Cancer Free" I have invited everyone on face book to go there and read it. Many have.
We thank God He sent us to Jim!! Thank you all, and Jim, for dedicating your life and talent for healing so many dying people.
Rhoda and Ronald Foust, www.foust.info
Video Testimonies~ Prostate cancer
[Ken Adachi note: These testimonials are worth their weight in gold. I've written a brief description of each video to give you a preview of just how valuable and important this information should be to anyone who has prostate cancer or even prostatitis or BHP. .
Emiliano had a PSA count of 43.5 in May 2013. The doctor told him it was a very aggressive prostate cancer and it was inoperable. A friend named Enrique told him about MMS, which he started taking on August 23, 2013. He took a dose of MMS each hour for 10 hours of each day. Twenty days later, his PSA count had dropped by 6 points. By November 23, 2013, he had a PSA count of 3.8 at which time he switched to using CDS water. His last PSA test was 1.2 taken in March of 2014. He's now free of all symptoms of cancer.
Connie found out about the amazing curative power of MMS by helping a man who had prostrate cancer that had metastasized to his pelvic bone. He started on CDS water for 3 weeks and then started on MMS2 which gave him an immediate boost in energy and he felt good. He had to use a catheter to urinate when Connie met him, but after 2.5 months on MMS, the catheter was no longer necessary. Connie cured herself of an infected tooth and sinus headaches using MMS. .
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