September 19, 2005
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Robertson <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: Comment on; "The Few, The Proud, The Psychotic"
A friend of mine joined the Delayed Entry Program midway through
his Senior year in high school. A shock to his friends and a blow to the
chest to his family, his stated reason was that he felt obligated to join
the Marine Corps based not only on his patriotism to his country, but because
since, in supporting the current war, he supported other people being shot
at - he felt he should be willing to make the same sacrifice. Whether you
support the current occupation or not, a nod needs to be given to anyone
that supports what they see as the bringing of freedom so much they are
willing to die for it.
This selfless notion.. a kid that went into the Marines because
of something he believed in.. turned into a worst case scenario late last
month by a knock on the door. I have never seen a father, a seasoned former
Marine, cry. A man so tough.. that any person in their right mind would
never push.. crying. There is nothing more heart breaking than witnessing
such a tough barrier broken down.
This kid felt for the Iraqi people. He requested friends and
family to send clothing inside his aid packages to give to the Iraqi children.
Not candy bars.. not a new t-shirt.. not the things most people in that
situation would be begging for; instead gifts he could give to children
that fell victim to war time circumstances.
"I'm disgusted with what the American military has devolved
into thanks to the satanic infiltrators."
"There is no act of cruelty, inhumaneness, mistreatment,
excessive force, torture, murder, defamation, deceit, 'false flag' sabotage,
or atrocities committed against innocent civilians that is beyond the pale
for today's 'Semper Fi' or 'All You Can Be' pawns in the game."
"The Marine Corps talks about breaking men down before
"rebuilding" them as new men--as marines! Well, that is exactly
what they do, the same way a cult breaks its people down and rebuilds them
as happy flower sellers on your local street corner."
"American military fighters are no longer known as defenders
of freedom, but rather are now members of a Killing Machine consisting of
former human beings who are converted into Nazi robots."
"Don't allow your children or loved ones to be hoodwinked
by phony recruitment psycho-garbage. Stay out of the military at all costs."
That was you speaking Ken.. those are the things you have
either directly stated or promoted through your reference. Despite the one
line on your entire website in which you claim that a few people are rebelling,
you are ultimately spitting on our selfness Marines like Greg, the person
I spoke about above. For you to do that is absolutely disgusting on levels
that I associate with terrorism itself. In particular reference to the last
three of the above quotes, you may want to know one more thing about Greg
and the Marines' effect on him; he wrote a letter home saying that his experiences
are shaping him as a person, as a human being. He talked about how a friend
of his he had only known a few weeks went to fend off an armed assailant
attacking two or three troops with the byproduct of killing innocent children;
that solider lost his life to save children that may one day be the ones
shooting at people like himself. The Marines transformed him into a self
proclaimed disciplined and responsible young man; things that many people
do not achieve in a life time.
Greg and other people like him have done more for our country
than a loud mouthed, "I'm going to stand no the side lines and criticize"
coward like you ever will. If I ever meet you in real life, consider my
presence a threat.
----- Original Message -----
To: Steven Robertson <email@example.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: Comment on; "The Few, The Proud, The Psychotic"
I don't have to ask you your age because the tenor of your
remarks have already told me your age. You are a young man, perhaps in your
late teens or early twenties. You are emotional, self assured, and full
of bravado- common characteristics of a young man eager to make the world
right and unafraid to speak your mind -as least in letter writing. You're
quite sure that you know everything, of course, and likely don't seek out
the opinion of older and wiser people-not on this subject anyway.
You know the score. You can tell right from wrong, up from
down, and inside from outside- and no one is going to tell you any different
from what you KNOW to be true. You can see things with your own eyes and
can spot valor and integrity from a mile away. That's why you had to write
me this letter. You read what I had to say and you sizzled inside, so you
had to get your patriot speech off your chest. And dressing me down seemed
like an easy way to do it.
You recognize admirable attributes in the conduct of other
people (your friend) and you wish to tell me off, good and proper, because
I don't KNOW what you know, you assume. I'm a blowhard in your opinion.
A feckless, spineless critic who throws critical darts at unsung heroes,
but never has to face any real danger myself. I'm sitting up here in my
ivory tower hurling insults at people that I don't even know, you're thinking,
but I haven't got a clue about their REAL motivation, intentions, or the
humane impulses which tend to spring from the hearts of courageous people-like
Have I got it about right so far?
I could go on explaining YOUR feelings and attitudes on this topic for another
4 or 5 paragraphs. It's easy for me or anyone else who is my age and has
had the same experiences as I. It's easy for me to second guess what you're
thinking because I've already been where you are now. I've been on the same
ground that you currently find your opinions and attitudes perched. In fact,
I've been in the EXACT same spot, although I'm sure you would think that
is not possible.
Also, I'm sure you don't like me saying this because you bristle
at the thought of any 'connection' between you and I -especially on this
subject! You are the stout hearted lion, or at least a flag waver and cheering
committee of one for said lion. And woe be to anyone who should dare compare
your staunch, incorruptible vision of reality and your recognition of the
stout hearted- against the words of a lame "coward" like myself.
Although I'm sure you don't like me playing the 'experience'
card, it's the only game in town because experience is what TEACHES us things
about ourselves (and those who affect our lives) and that's what brings
us greater INSIGHTS and KNOWLEDGE, and that in turn leads us to greater
Wisdom is what ultimately guides us on the journey through
life and the more you have of it, the more meaningful your life will become
because you can AVOID making the SAME ERRORS over and over again and you
can MOVE ON to new territory, where NEW insights and NEW understandings
are made known to you. .
But on this topic, you have NO WISDOM because you have NO
INSIGHTS and NO KNOWLEDGE about this game of warfare, of militarism, of
uniforms, of medals, of rank, of saluting, of "Yes SIR!", of flag
waving, of marching music, of mindless military jingoism and misplaced patriotism.
Your friend Greg is a PAWN in a VISCIOUS GAME, but he doesn't KNOW IT yet--
nor do you. He will eventually discover it for himself. It may happen while
he is still in the Marine Corps or it may happen some years after he has
left the Marine Corps, but he will eventually REALIZE that he was USED as
a COG in a KILLING MACHINE that serves the interests of- not the American
people or the interests of freedom- but rather the interest of evil and
corrupt oligarchy manipulators whose ONLY goal is the ever greater accumulation
of wealth and power over others. Of course, Greg may not have the opportunity
to realize that he's been used as a pawn because he might get killed or
severly wounded before that realization occurs. His family will have to
bear the grief of his death however, regardless of what realizations they
may or may not have about his pawn-like role in an UNJUSTIFIED INVASION
by a grossly superior military force over a weak country that presented
NO THREAT to the United States.
That's what Cindy Sheehan realized after her son came home
in a body bag. She realized that Bush and company had LIED through their
teeth every step of the way in order to DUPE the American people into believing
that there was an imminent and genuine THREAT to the security of America
when NO SUCH THREAT existed. I, and other Americans, some of us veterans
of earlier wars, were bellowing the fact that there was no evidence of a
threat from the very beginning of the Bush cabal saber rattling following
the government orchestrated production known as 9-11. You were likely in
high school at the time.
Don't give me this 'defense of freedom' crap when the plans
for the Second Iraq invasion were laid out to the nth degree YEARS before
September 11, 2001 came up on the calendar! What do you know about the Bush
crime family and their history? Nothing. What do you know about Big Dick
Cheney and his dark "secrets" (but well known to "presidential
model' MK Ultra mind control victims)? Nothing. What about Rice, or Rumsfeld,
or Colin Powell, or Pearle? Nothing, nothing, and nothing. If you did, then
you wouldn't have written me your 'holier than thou' critique. No one in
their right mind is gong to put their life on the line for people that they
KNOW are New World Order TRAITORS whose goal is to facilitate the DESTRUCTION
of America, its sovereignty, and its people!
Greg wouldn't be worrying about defending other Marines in
Iraq, nor would he have to worry about helping desperate Iraqi kids-if America
NEVER invaded Iraq in the first place! You really can't see the forest from
You are not sophisticated or mature enough to recognize that
my words were aimed at the military apparatus itself and the politicians
who use it and not the kids who are sucked into joining that military apparatus.
If I didn't care about the UNJUSTIFIED and UNNECESSARY loss of life among
young people like your friend Greg, then I wouldn't have written the article.
You are SO dumb. You don't realize that the things I write
are an attempt to save blind Americans like you from destruction at the
hands of the lying criminals who are sending kids like Greg to their death
in order to promote an imperialist agenda. The destructive agenda of the
satanic elites who THRIVE on death, torment, and chaos because it brings
them ever more lucrative and bloated 'reconstruction' contracts, oil, access
to oil, oil pipelines, greater spheres of influence, power blocs, .etc.,
etc. Perhaps you don't know that we also 'reconstructed' Europe and Japan
after the Second World War. That made a lot of money for those firms who
carried out that reconstruction. Any idea who might be behind those firms?.
Reconstruction is the second phase of the War Game. War is
a Money Maker. You make a lot of money building up a war machine, then you
make a lot of money feeding replacements into that war machine, and finally
you make a lot of money 'reconstructing' the rubble from an unnecessary
war that was contrived in the first place. Of course, the LOSS OF LIFE among
young, believing, and trusting American boys-like Greg (to say nothing of
the greater death toll from innocent civilians)- is of NO CONSEQUENCE to
the elite manipulators who conspire to plunge America into war. US Marine
Corp Major General Smedley Butler wrote a book in 1935 called "War
is a Racket". He recalls in that book how he and his men were USED
by wealthy and elite families (the same Illuminati families who run America
today) to secure land, power, and hegemony over rightful peasant land holders
in South America, Central America, and Cuba. He said World War 1 was utterly
contrived into existence by the Rothchilds and British elites to take over
most of the Ottoman empire from Turkey, and especially so to secure Palestine
in order to create the future Israel in 1948; all planned and contrived
YEARS before even World War I (by the British Round Table around the turn
of the century). Just like the Second Invasion of Iraq was planned long
William Carr was a Canadian Admiral who wrote a book in the
mid 1950's called "Pawns in the Game" What do you suppose he had
to say about the war racket and the military apparatus that makes it all
possible? He said pretty much the same thing that Gen. Smedley had said
in his book, except he carried the story through World War II.
So now you mouth off to me about something that got your
emotional MoJo in high gear. You even had the stupidity to threaten me.
That's a good way to get yourself arrested. Recruiters definitely depend
on pulling in emotional, flag waving dummies like you. You make the perfect
military robot and that's just what they are looking for-unthinking, flag
waving, trusting, believing robots. You'll fit right in. Do you think that
you'll be joining soon? If not, don't be concerned about it. Bush and company
will soon force the decision for you when they bring back the draft.
In your youth and dumbness, you have confused the increased
sense of self worth that normally comes about when any young person goes
through military training. The enforced discipline, the buildup in physique
and stamina, etc, the assignment of responsibilities and duties, the acquisition
of rank, specialized schooling, etc. makes young military recruits feel
good about themselves. That's a normal reaction that millions of young men
have experienced by going through military training. It doesn't mean that
the military organization that applied that training and discipline is necessarily
of good and noble character and is therefore interested in the betterment
of mankind and its charges. No, it doesn't work that way. The military is
interested in getting you to follow orders-quickly and without hesitation,
and without thinking. That's the REAL purpose of the training: unquestioned
The critique you level at me has already been leveled by other
dumb, young Turks like you of another generation. They heartedly sang "Over
There" to the bright and stout hearted music of George M, Cohen in
1917. Everything was grand right up to their first mustard gas attack among
the hedge rows of France. Then things seemed less grand. By the time they
got trench foot and had to cut off their own feet in order to survive, no
one was interested in singing patriotic George M. Cohen tunes any more.
Mrs. Sullivan's five boys were eager to sign up together for
the Navy the day after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, December 8,
1941. She received five Gold Stars all on the same day because all five
sons were killed on the same day on the same ship. She didn't know that
Roosevelt, the President of the United States, KNEW the Japanese were going
to attack Pearl Harbor at least SIX WEEKS before December 7, 1941. His friend
Winston Churchill also knew of the impending Japanese attack, but they didn't
do anything to prevent the attack or warn our troops because Roosevelt needed
an excuse for declaring war on Japan and their Axis ally, Germany. And so
it goes, the war racket. Using up the lives of young men to feed a killing
machine that only brings benefit and power to the weathly and the elite
who engineer the war into existence and never the poor, dumb slobs who pay
for it with their lives.
Don't write to me again. Save your bravado and tough talk
for the Marines. They need another robot like you to take the place of those
coming back in body bags-unseen and unheralded--'bad' for morale you know.
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