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Decembeer 12, 2002

Note from Ken Adachi, August 1, 2011

Ted Gunderson passed away on July 31, 2011 from complications related to kidney failure. More information here:

Ted L. Gunderson, Former FBI Bureau Chief, Passed Away on Sunday, July 31, 2011 at Age 82 (Aug. 1, 2011)
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/tedgundersonpasses01aug11.shtml

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----- Original Message -----
From: djsmith
To: Editor@educate-yourself.org
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:13 PM
Subject: Ted Gunderson

Hello Ken,

    I like your web site but I've been reading conflicting information about Ted Gunderson. William cooper's web site says that he's really an Illuminati agent spreading disinformation. I have great respect for Mr. Cooper's work (and so did the government apparently), so I don't want to just ignore his claims. Have you uncovered any information that might cause Mr. Gunderson's motives to be suspect?

Sincerely,   Dave Smith

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Editor
To: djsmith
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: Ted Gunderson

Hi Dave,

Thanks for writing. I didn't know about any negative info about Ted at Bill's site. I would like to read it. Can you send me the url for the info you refer to?

Ted has been the target of a protracted smear campaign for almost 3 years now. It started in early 2000 with the machinations of a web site called www.newsmakingnews.com. after Ted started co-lecturing with Brice Taylor in late Fall of 1999.  About the same time that newsmakingnews started dumping on Ted, Art Bell launched into his wholly-fabricated tale about Ted calling him a 'child abuser'  over the air, an utter falsehood (by the way, the coordinated timing with newsmakingnews.com and Art Bell's bellowing was a little too convenient for my "covert op" sensors). Of late, Stew Webb, a government sponsored informat/stooge if there ever was one, has been on the attack. 

Ted's credentials and background look too good. He held too high a position in the FBI to be dismissed as a kook. His research has been too deep, too voluminous, and too incisive to be ignored. He hits them hardest on satanic ritual abuse of children, CIA sponsored kidnapping/murder of children, and mind control. The three things they want desperately to keep from the American public.

Ted's lectures hit too close to home and he never quits.  He doesn't pull punches and they can't seem to kill him off, as it has been attempted six times to date. So they try to discredit him and smear his reputation. They use blowhards like Stew Webb to first ingratiate himself with Ted, live off his largess for a year, and who then turns around and betrays Ted, calling him a spook and govt. agent- when the reality is just the opposite. Same goes for a CIA mind controlled schrew named Barbara Hartwell. First she approaches Ted, pleads for his help and assistance. He helps her in numerous ways and about 8 months later, she's calling him a spook at the urging of an instigator (dare I say 'asset' ?) named Virginia McCullough of www.newsmakingnews.com

I liked Bill Cooper too. I eulogized him when he died, but I saw his warts as well. He over-trusted some sources of info (John Lear is a good example) and suspected others without sufficient justification. He was usually on an emotional roller coaster, mostly due to his drinking I suppose. His judgements were often delivered from the hip, rather than from his head. Nonetheless, he done good while he had the chance to do it, but that's precisely what Ted Gunderson is attempting to do with the time he has remaining.

Always remember to ask yourself when weighing info (and disinfo) about credible, high profile, former-governemnt employees and anti-NWO speakers like Ted Gunderson: who loses and who gains?

The campaign to smear Ted is so transparent, you could rub it squeaky clean with Windex.  

If you closely examine the accusations against Ted made by his detractors, they amount to nothing more than hot air. I plan to expound on each and every one of Ted's critics in several articles to be posted at my web site. Stay tuned for 'the rest of the story'.

Regards, Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: Editor
To: djsmith
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: Ted Gunderson

Hi Dave,

Thanks for writing. I didn't know about any negative info about Ted at Bill's site. I would like to read it. Can you send me the url for the info you refer to?

    sure. The exact quote is:

"Those who are attracted to the Mysteries who are unable to grasp the esoteric meaning of their education often take the exoteric interpretation to be truth. They often turn to Satan or Lucifer (Light) as their object of worship never understanding the metaphor for a much deeper philosophy. These Satan worshipers are useful. They furnish a diversion and are often a source of large sums of money. The Brotherhood has seldom found itself lacking in fools or funds. Ex-FBI operative Ted Gunderson is the hegelian tool in this instance pointing you off after Satanists, a cull-d-sac where you will chase your own tail round, and round, and round. I do not believe that Ted knows that he is being used in this regard. I may be wrong."

    to be found at:

http://www.williamcooper.com/majestyt.htm

Ted has been the target of a protracted smear campaign for almost 3 years now. It started in early 2000 with the machinations of a web site called newsmakingnews.com. after Ted started co-lecturing with Brice Taylor in late Fall of 1999.  About the same time that newsmakingnews started dumping on Ted, Art Bell launched into his wholly-fabricated tale about Ted calling him a 'child abuser'  over the air, an utter falsehood (by the way, the coordinated timing with newsmakingnews.com and Art Bell's bellowing was a little too convenient for my "covert op" sensors). Of late, Stew Webb, a government sponsored informat/stooge if there ever was one, has been on the attack. 

    I read about this. In the same link above, Cooper has this to say about Art Bell:

Art Bell is a Freemason. He is a member of the Illuminati. Art Bell's book The Quickening is one of the most blatant, in your face, pieces of new world order propaganda that I have ever seen. In it Art Bell, claiming to be a patriotic American, shamelessly advocates the formation of a world totalitarian socialist government.

"Will there be a global government with a benevolent dictator, overseeing global law, global police and a global judiciary in an attempt to make the world cleaner, peaceful and prosperous? If that's what it takes to achieve these ends, so be it." -- from The Quickening by Art Bell, page 309

The Art Bell Overnight and Dreamland radio shows dish up nightly servings of ridiculous, outrageous, and fantastic conspiracy fantasies. Occasionally Bell stirs in legitimate, real and dangerous conspiracies. Although Art Bell pretends to be serious, the mix of incredulous fantasy with fact serves to debunk all conspiracies. Bell effectively implants the idea that anyone who believes in any conspiracy is a whacked out nutcase that should be locked up in a mental institution. He is a most effective change agent operating on behalf of our enemies.



    He goes into Bell's books and web site logo's as being steeped in Illuminati symbology. It appears to be very well researched. He also maintains the same stance regarding Richard Hoagland of www.enterprise.com. I read another news article that Hoagland was awarded a "Thousand Points of Light" (Illuminati terminolgy) recognition by Barbara Bush for his web site back in the early '90's. That would seem to be a ***big*** confirmation of Cooper's claim.

Ted's credentials and background look too good. He held too high a position in the FBI to be dismissed as a kook. His research has been too deep, too voluminous, and too incisive to be ignored. He hits them hardest on satanic ritual abuse of children, CIA sponsored kidnapping/murder of children, and mind control. The three things they want desperately to keep from the American public.

    Which also makes him a likely candidate for double agent. The conspiracy accounts for all levels of understanding. "They" know that there will be those who are ever suspicious of everything so what better cover than to speak to us in "our" language? Whoever would have thought that the NAZI reich was infiltrated from top to bottom with British double agents? The Brits were being bombed daily by them.. but that is how the Brits stayed one step ahead of them.. that BS about cracking all their codes was a cover.. they had the codes handed to them by double agents. Re-read George Orwell's "1984".. that was the past he was referring to, not the future. WWII was perpetrated on the British people by the British government and aristocracy.

Ted's lectures hit too close to home and he never quits.  He doesn't pull punches and they can't seem to kill him off, as it has been attempted six times to date. So they try to discredit him and smear his reputation. They use blowhards like Stew Webb to first ingratiate himself with Ted, live off his largess for a year, and who then he turns around and betrays Ted, calling him a spook and govt. agent- when the reality is just the opposite. Same goes for a CIA mind controlled schrew named Barbara Hartwell. First she approaches Ted, pleads for his help and assistance. He gives it and 8 months later she's calling him a spook at the urging of an instigator (dare I say 'asset' ?) named Virginia McCullough of newsmakingnews.com

I liked Bill Cooper too. I eulogized him when he died, but I saw his warts as well. He over-trusted some sources of info (John Lear is a good example) and suspected others without sufficient justification. He was usually on an emotional roller coaster, mostly due to his drinking I suppose. His judgements were often delivered from the hip, rather than from his head. Nonetheless, he done good while he had the chance to do it, but that's precisely what Ted Gunderson is attempting to do with the time he has remaining.

Always remember to ask yourself when weighing info (and disinfo) about credible, high profile, former-governemnt employees and anti-NWO speakers like Ted Gunderson: who loses and who gains?

The campaign to smear Ted is so transparent, you could rub it squeaky clean with Windex.  

If you closely examine the accusations against Ted made by his detractors, they amount to nothing more than hot air. I plan to expound on each and every one of Ted's critics in several articles to be posted at my web site. Stay tuned for 'the rest of the story'.

    Don't discount what Ted says, but do include that possibility that you *are* being led around by the nose and maybe off into an irrelevant direction as Cooper claims.. Cooper was assassinated after all, they clearly did not want people to hear what he had to say.

Dave Smith