A: It doesn't upset me to write on the topic of the Illuminati, I
was explaining why I write under a pen name, that is all. I received a letter
recently in which it was alleged that I write under a pen name because I'm
a phony, which is not true at all. I am a freelance writer on the side (I
write for nursing magazines and publications on health topics that have NOTHING
to do with abuse) and understand the need for fact checking, so no offense
is taken at your wanting to know my background. In fact, it shows you are
a responsible editor, which I admire. I have nothing to hide. My story is
I have gained no money for disclosing; I do NOT go on talk shows, I am unknown
and prefer it this way. I have absolutely no secondary gain from doing this,
other than the medical bills for my children, which means I work three part-time
jobs. This is to answer the skeptics who say that people disclose for: sympathy
(I don't want any and don't need it. I made choices and mistakes in my life,
and am now involved in restitution); money (I earn $20 a MONTH for my site
on Suite 101. I earn $150 to $250 an article when I write on Women's health.
Guess which topic I write on more frequently? Yep. Women's health, on
completely non-abuse issues. The editors of the Nursing magazines and women's
magazines don't know about the other topic I write on, another reason I write
under a pen name.) I don't write for fame. Instead, if my co-workers knew
about my past, I risk losing my job. I have everything to lose by disclosing,
everything to gain by being silent.
But I also know that this kind of child abuse must be stopped. As a Christian,
and as one who stands against child abuse, I have decided to speak out against
cult abuse by writing articles that expose it. I also know that there are
a number of people outspoken on this topic who have published, and they could
possibly be back-up information for you. I don't know any of them, since I
have no contact with other survivors other than my own family, but it is a
Anyway, to your questions:
Q: Svali, I think our readers are wondering 'Is the Illuminati
a religion, secret society, satanism or is it a combination of it, or something
different all together, or more sinister?
A: The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known
as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their
followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon,
Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best"
of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly
occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities
such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set".
This said, the leadership councils at times scoff at the more "primitive"
practices of the anarchical, or lower levels. I remember when I was on council
in San Diego, they called the high priests and priestesses the "slicers and
dicers", who kept the "lower levels happy". This is not to offend anyone,
it only shows that at the leadership levels,they often believe they are more
scientifically and cognitively driven. But they still practice the principles
There are 12 steps to this, also known as "the 12 steps of discipline' and
they also teach traveling astral planes, time travel, and other metaphysical
phenomena. Do people really do this, or is it a drug induced hallucination
? I cannot judge. I saw things that I believe cannot be rationally explained
when in this group, things that frightened me, but I can only say that it
could be a combination of cult mind control, drug inductions, hypnosis, and
some true demonic activity. How much of each, I cannot begin to guess. I do
know that these people teach and practice evil.
At the higher levels, the group is no longer people in robes chanting in
front of bonfires. Leadership councils have administrators who handle finances
(and trust me, this group makes money. That alone would keep it going even
if the rest were just religious hog wash). The leadership levels include businessmen,
bankers, and local community leaders. They are intelligent, well educated,
and active in their churches.Above local leadership councils are the regional
councils, who give dictates to the groups below them, help form the policies
and agendas for each region, and who interact with the local leadership councils.
At the national level, there are extremely wealthy people who finance these
goals and interact with the leaders of other countries. The Illuminati are
international. Secret? By all means. The first thing a child learns from "family,
or the Order" as they are called, is "The first rule of the Order is secrecy".
This is why you don't hear from more survivors who get out. The lengths that
this group goes to, to terrify its members into not disclosing, is unbelievable.
I have seen set ups (oh, yes, they set up fake deaths, etc. ) where a person
was "burned alive" to teach the children not to tell. They are told that this
is a traitor, who disclosed,and now he is being punished. (The person wasn't
really a traitor, and is in a flame proof vest, but the vision of a person
on fire and screaming remains with 3 and 4 year old children for a lifetime).
And, when they are adults, even if they DO leave, scenes such as this mean
they won't tell many people for fear of being traced and punished.
Because I helped create a lot of set ups as an adult trainer, I became somewhat
cynical, and have chosen to disclose as a result. Although I do fight intense
fear even now at times. Try being buried in a wooden box for a period of time
(it may have been minutes, but to a four year old it is an eternity), and
then when the lid is lifted, being told, "if you ever tell, we'll put you
back in forever". The child will scream hysterically that they will NEVER
EVER tell. I was that child, and now I am breaking that vow made under psychological
duress. Because I don't want any other children to go through what I did,
or have seen done to others. Yes, the Illuminati are organized, secretive,
and extremely wealthy at its upper levels. They are not stupid, or poor people
running around dabbling with witchcraft. To see them as this is a huge misconception.
Q: How widespread would you say this group has infiltrated our
society in terms of number of people? Are they present in every town or city
throughout North America? Do they take or recruit outsiders? And how far does
this group go to keep this knowledge secret?
A: I think I answered some of the secrecy above. The Illuminati are
present in every major metropolitan center in the United States. They have
divided the United States up into 7 major regions, and each has a regional
council over it, with the heads of the local councils reporting to them. They
meet once every two months, and on special occasions.
A metropolitan region may have as many as 10 to 30 groups within it, and
rural areas will often have meetings with other local groups, and report to
the metro leadership council. They almost NEVER recruit outsiders, although
ocassionally they will buy children or a family from Asia, for example, and
keep them under constant surveillance in return for saving their life from
the local Mafia. They are threatened with being returned to this group if
they ever disclose.
They also have excellent lawyers who are well paid to help cover their tracks.
There are also people in the media paid to help keep stories from coming out.
I know of three people in San Diego who worked for the Union Tribune
who were faithful Illuminists, and who also wrote frequent articles attacking
local therapists who worked with RA (Ritual Abuse) [or SRA, Satanic Ritual
Abuse] survivors. I remember leadership boasting they had "run so-and-so out
of town" because of a media blitz, and being quite happy about it.
The Illuminati believe in controlling an area through its:
1. Banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on banking
boards? You'd be surprised) 2. Local government: guess how many get elected to local city councils?
3. Law: children are encouraged to go to law school and medical school.
4. Media:others are encouraged to go to journalism school, and members
help fund local papers .
Q: Is this the same Illuminati that was created by Adam Weishaupt
A: Weishaupt did not create the Illuminati, they chose him as a figurehead
and told him what to write about. The financiers, dating back to the bankers
during the times of the Templar Knights who financed the early kings in Europe,
created the Illuminati. Weishaupt was their "go fer", who did their bidding.
Q: Do you have anymore info about the political goals, if any,
of the Illuminati?
A: This article I wrote for Suite101.com addresses it: "Are the
Illuminati taking over the world?" You can reprint it, or part of it,
as long as you give credit to Suite 101 and/or a link back to the site.
Q: How do Illuminati members recognise each other?
A: Since it is generational, its easy. It isn't hard to recognize
one's father, mother, siblings, and neighbors and friends one has grown up
with. The Illuminati use telephone trees to contact members when a meeting
is to occur. A month or two ahead of time, leadership council plans dates
and places for meetings for different groups under their umbrella. They then
call local leaders a week ahead of time (the high priest or priestess). Two
days ahead, these people call their head members, who then call the people
under them. A person knows their status in the group by how far ahead of time
they know a meeting date. The lower in the group, the less they are trusted
with information, and the less "lag time" before meetings.
Sometimes, certain pieces of jewelry, such as a ruby ring or an oval emerald,
might be worn if meeting someone in a public place at a prearranged assignation.
But most accessing and contact is done through family members or close friends.
When I lived in San Diego, my entire family of origin and my four closest
friends were all members of the group. It wasn't hard to reach me, to say
the least. My spouse was also a member. The Illuminati believe in arranged
members, and do NOT allow their members to marry a nonmember. If someone says
their spouse isn't in it, they aren't Illuminati, or they are in denial. This
was an unbreakable policy. My marriage was arranged by the local leadership
council to another ranking member. I didn't want to marry him, because I didn't
love him, and I will never forget what I was told by Athena, my mentor at
the time (she held the second position on the council): "That's for the best,
then, because he can never hurt you or control you." Or, my mother's timeless
advice given when I was 12 years old: "Never fu-- someone lower than you.
They will drag you down. Always choose someone higher than yourself."
She was an ambitious woman, to say the least, determined that I would do
well in this very political group. I took her advice, and Athena was my lover
and protected me from some of the SOBs on leadership in San Diego especially
Jonathan, the head trainer. She taught me his weaknesses and how to get around
him, and stood up to him for me. I wouldn't have survived otherwise.
These are NOT nice people and they use and manipulate others viciously.They
cut their eye teeth on status, power, and money. I have given all of that
up to leave, and am glad to be away from it now, although I do miss some of
my friends, and at times I miss the respect of being a leader. But I am learning
to live a whole new life without the constant background of "family" monitoring
and telling me what to do.
Know what the hardest part of getting out was? The freedom. Not having anyone
telling me what to do. I literally went through a period of adjustment, felt
wobbly, trying to figure out what I wanted to do. It was hard, since I was
used to reflexively checking my decisions with leadership and Jonathan and
my husband. Freedom can be difficult, believe it or not, and took quite a
period of time to adjust to. I believe that the inability to deal with it
often draws people back in. I hope this information is useful to you.
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