From Free Voice of America (FVOA)
September 17, 2004
[From Thomas Buyea: Keep in mind when reading this, that the
man being interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff. Attorney Stanley
Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known
Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional
reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people.
The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show. All honor
to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may know the truth of
The Bush Junta Unmasked
"This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation.
Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks.
He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton
Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit
Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription
AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful
counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11.
He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll out - half
of New Yorkers think the government was involved in 9/11. And joining us
for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley,
it's great to have you on with us.
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in a
nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of military officers.
You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller
and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and
abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen.
Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very incriminating documents
as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen
in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda
on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East.
I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some
of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz
and Feith and several of the others and so I know these people personally.
And we used to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior
thesis on this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship
by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been
in the planning at least 35 years.
AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like professor
. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I know you deposed
a lot of people and you've got your $7 million dollar lawsuit with hundreds
of the victim's families involved.
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and incriminating evidence
you've got of them ordering the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action lawsuit
as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three arguments
are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And secondly
that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the U.S.
Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent evidence to Congress to
get the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and
claimed that Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's come back
and get into the evidence. BREAK
AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the anniversary
of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an amazing individual we
have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist,
a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis
about how to turn America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor
attack. He's suing the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds
of the victims' families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And
he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los
Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir,
recap what you were just stating and then let's get into the new evidence.
And then we'll get into why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other
FBI people are being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this.
So, this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller,
etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in
ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married
to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double
agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country.
They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and
other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally
ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence,
documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence
- in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally
ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of
this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September
11th - when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the
[garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story,
is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed
this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even
made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference
when he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack
the first tower." And that could not be possible because there was
no video. What it was, was the simulated video that he had gone over.
So this was a personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under
the Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal
Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to
justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under
the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being
a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of
the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened
to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed
by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been
broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills of flying
hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you told us about before
it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out ahead
of you. You talked about how you interviewed military people who were told
it was a drill that morning. Then to get out ahead of that, the news finally
reported on it. Now, we've learned that all these operations - I want to
get into that, I want to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering
it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling
this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't release
the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment are you going
through? SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several
months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized - particularly
the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one of the hijackers.
Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place so nothing disappeared
permanently. But more significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one
of my staff members and threatening them with vague but frightening threats
of indicting them. And it's just total harassment. They have planted a spy,
an undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently discovered.
In other words, these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government
you have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come back
after this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK
AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley Hilton,
political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, is suing
the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering.
And he joins us now. During the break, I first really did the big interview
with Stanley Hilton after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview
got massive attention. And then he kind of went underground for a while
because a judge, we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any
more interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his office
broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed military
individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a government operation.
It has even come out in mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They
had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of
the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten documents about how Bush
ordered the whole operation. And I'll tell you right now, his life is in
danger, folks. And he's got so much courage. He went to school with these
neocons at the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government
could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the
time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just did his
lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was ordered to. Stanley,
can you get into that for us?
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a year
and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted by the
emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I have the lawsuit.
And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet and threatened
with discipline. And it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and
then I got on the air on some programs and some publicity and July 1st,
I was threatened directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court
discipline. This particular judge has been circulating communiqués
to the other federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against
me to try and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years
with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And her
assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on July 1st
in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They handed me a copy
of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to dismiss this. What's
this? She doesn't like the content of it. This is politically incorrect.
This is outside the norm. I said I represented more than 400 plaintiffs,
how am I going to dismiss this case? And they threatened me directly and
they said, "the next time you'll be disciplined." And also they've
threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is just outrageous.
AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's because of the
political content of the suit but they told me directly on the phone that
it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry, apparently
has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department. I got a call from
Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about this, demanding that
I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused
to drop it. AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,
harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets - it
was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files dealing
with this particular case and particularly with the documents I had regarding
the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least some of them were
on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents.
They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led
up to the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration,
basically. That the entity that he called al Qaeda is directly linked to
George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But
this was just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some
of my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous
that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the obstruction of justice,
these people are criminals. And that's what's happening under the tremendous
pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away.
AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk about,
without giving names, the people you deposed, what really happened, the
picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were simulating
this which they now admit there were simulations on that morning. Let's
go over what they don't want you to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn statements
from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials
in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the fact
that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened.
Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a
press conference in California a few months after 9/11 where he said he
had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first building on the video. And
that's not possible because there was no official video of that. There was
one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one. We
do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events.
It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there
the night before - September 10th, that is
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission, admitted
that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved out of
Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key area of this
whole event. You said months before it came out on the CIA's own website
and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. They said there were
drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening - that was the
smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA
comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning. Now, we've
learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill
with the exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact
same time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different
blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up first. Now, I
know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I personally
toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole. I'm
very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs,
where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the Air Force
have stated this, off the record, but the point is, yes, this was not just
five drills but at least 35 drills over at least two months before September
11th. Everything was planned, the exact location
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the only
explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers going,
"Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a drill.
SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became public.
I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I stated before.
This was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally
signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of
treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to
use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit
in this country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried
to harass and threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs.
And they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and
now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me
in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s interesting that he
got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse criminal
sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty of mass murder as well
as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly planes
into buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,
Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running all these drills that morning.
Even if they weren't involved, that proves they were liars about ever hearing
of such a plan.
SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been trying to take
their depositions for months. They've been trying to object to it. They
will have to admit they were either lying then or now. It's clearly perjury
either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what they are. These are
the people that we have running this government and, of course, they knew
about it. How are they going to claim now that they didn't know about these
drills? Their idea is that nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing
mentality. And how anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could the
AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if your Cessna
got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you. It's real
simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a half ago. It's what
came out in the news after that. The military, good people, were told this
was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney
was in control of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the
military to quote "do something." Our inside sources from Hilton
and others say it was a stand down and they admit they will not release
that under national security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in the
court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they must
release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S. because
under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush Administration
of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. And under the statutes of
Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this information. That's why
they are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files,
commit blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent
a legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts of
treason and mass murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning suicide.
Would you like to tell folks that?
SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not planning
that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell you this, it's
taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And particularly, when you
get a threat from the chief judge of your own court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being under
the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing
over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now without
any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the biggest act
of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean George Bush makes
Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like
George Washington. I mean that's what we have - a criminal and a traitor
sitting in the White House pretending he's a patriot, wrapping himself in
the flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the other side of the so-called
opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they're afraid
AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then he's
got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist,
lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of them victims of 9/11. When
I was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus
percent of them at ground zero - "I had family, I worked in the buildings,
my son's a Navy Seal - he called the night before and said don't go to work."
You know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns
out they had all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into
the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning
- come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show before
it was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the break.
I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge
threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically into the documents that
you have now got that they have now been robbing you for, that you luckily,
thank God had copies. Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into
that for us - ordering 9/11? SH: National Security Council classified documents
which [garbled] and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved
with the drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape.
These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a
year and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a computer
chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military
ground control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to control
it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's
also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft
drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking
about National Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated
that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no drill.
These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was
a government operation. You wonder why these people are trying to threaten
people and trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess
if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt
Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions
more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got something to
worry about and you want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals, they
are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't know what's
happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream news, that yes these
drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills, quote, passenger-type
jets were under remote control - this is decades old technology. In 1958,
NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago they
flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So since that's going on, everybody
knows that. And it's the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center
[bombing] where they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik
who had a tiny mosque above a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the
patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant
goes, "You're not going to bomb the building? They go "Yeah, we're
letting it go forward." He tapes them to protect themselves. The two
retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up against the column, as
the FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower - because
you have to be right up against the column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's
the same thing with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who
were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream
media, out creating their legends for this background. They're on board
the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board
the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings.
From your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas or
something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure to be
honest with you
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on board and
the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings,
how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like a classic
decoy. I've got some military background. And it's called decoy. It's a
decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to avoid looking
at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called nineteen
hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in
fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the
oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who authorized it.
There is only one man who could have authorized this operation and that's
Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at
NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to
do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a puppet.
And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ]
Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered
and he's guilty and liable and he's going to be re-elected apparently because
the media's asleep and [garbled] for Bush. AJ: Well, the media is owned
by the same military industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official government
fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldn't even steer
that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up. BREAK
AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to these
military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to be pretty
freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the sense
that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at the criminal
politicians who have perverted and misused the government to murder its
own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And many of them,
in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk under subpoena
- but only under subpoena because the official party line of the government
is shut up and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are
very outraged that part of the government has done this to its own people,
to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see something
- not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look at Stalin
who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also we've
got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if these people
pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, it's disgusting. I wanted
also to point out that the Japanese television network, Asahi, is going
to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed
me for eight hours a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course,
the America media don't care so they are not going to care. But in Japan,
people are very serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a website
now, called deprogram.info, if more people are interested: www.deprogram.info.
But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me
- and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here now. And it seems
you can't bring a case in this country anymore against criminals in power
without being threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes are pretty
high when you've got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this
government against it's own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely intend
to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have carried out more
attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up to, if you wouldn't
have been out there boldly speaking out and many others. And then their
electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people
like yourself and many others who are speaking out and telling the truth.
But do you think that they may carry out what they've been hyping - a suitcase
nuke attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know
it's a catch 22, you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the
word out on this but some government people that I've talk to say, "Yeah,
but if you do that, they are going to go even more hard core and must totally
try to take over." But I say regardless, they are already doing that.
So what do you say to that?
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency plans.
I think they are laying low now because there are an increasing number of
people, like myself, who are openly challenging them and accusing them of
criminal conduct. I think they would have done it again if we had not spoken
up. I think they're planning, what they would like to do is silence any
dissenters. That's why we are trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional
in this lawsuit also.
AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man,
hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those guys
who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand grenade
for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who is highly respected,
half of New Yorkers believe that the government was involved. When you have
a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that the U.S. government was involved.
And some groups, as high as 76% in polls believe the government was involved.
European polls, two- thirds show the same thing. We have German defense
ministers and technology ministers and another member of their government
now, three of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives.
You have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't
do it, they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who is
a thinking person looks at the evidence, their official story is impossible.
Then you investigate and they are involved in it. Comments to this massive
awakening and what's happening.
SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress political
dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not dumb individuals.
I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal individuals
but they are smart and so they anticipated political dissent. And that's
why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis
and the Stalinists, they're all for political repression. Every corrupt
and criminal government has done this - they suppress their own people:
Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot
Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September
11th, this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a political
suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why they want Patriot I and
Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching more terrorist attacks
to justify even more repression. The goal is to make this a one party dictatorship
in this country, to pursue their dubious ends with their blood brothers
like the Saudi Royal family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as
the Nazi Germany and the Communist Russian. That's the goal
AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also tell
you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're against
us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being arrested
randomly. Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people
put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to
have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It
had nothing to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent
for martial law.
SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad and
overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word communist
was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody can be
called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony is that the number
one terrorist in the world is living at the White House at the oval office
today. That's the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the
world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the
Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience that
I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those that are
guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful. It's like watching
Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is just painful to
know who these people are. To see them putting America in a shredder. Now
we are going to have forced psychological testing of every American, forced
drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all happening,
it's in our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory and
concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who was
Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in Munich. And I've
studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism and there is no question
that it's very frightening. And it has, today, with high technology, albeit
for the first time in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated
by corrupt, technologically oriented government - an elite government. And
they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which
is the technological means to dominate not only their own country but others
- the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project
for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl Harbor events,
to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to show
their own plans. And to force people to face this horror. What are they
going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of us, know the truth?
SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the ancient old
diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch it away.
I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their capacity for ingenious
creation of these events is sort of unraveled. I mean there is no limit.
My guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a stunt just before
the election to justify getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he
is running against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess
is they'll try some other tactic to get people's attention away from 9/11
if it gets to be too much attention. What you really want is for the public
to just lose interest because the public - and it's like remember the Alamo,
you know, people don't forget things like that. To me it's like the Alamo,
remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous act of treason.
That's what it is. It's not
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much resistance,
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are corrupt
and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by their corruption
and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people are going to get outraged
enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and our
military, and eventually we can get people under subpoena these individuals
will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not
recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others. People couldn't
recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing to it. We are recognizing
it this time. We are putting our lives, our treasure, our future on the
line for freedom because we cannot let these blood-thirsty control freak
terrorists capture us and use us and turn us into the empire and have a
draft and use us as their slaves to invade the planet. And that's their
PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get to court. God bless
you. I want to thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back
on next week?
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think about
the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House and the danger
for the future that these sorts of individuals pose. This is not just a
historical event of the past. This is part of the plan and the camera is
still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous.
They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat to
every freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the government.
They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are counting on us not
facing up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats and
chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them. That's
what they are counting on.
AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, I'm not
AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.
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