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Open letter to Barbara Hartwell from Ted L. Gunderson in Response to Her Letter to Noreen Gosch

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By Ted L. Gunderson
April 2, 2005

Open letter to Barbara Hartwell from Ted L. Gunderson in Response to Her Letter to Noreen Gosch (April 2, 2005)

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Re: "Open Letter to Noreen Gosch: The Truth About COINTELPRO Ted Gunderson & Associated Persons By Barbara Hartwell"

I was amused when I read your letter (a smoke screen) to Noreen Gosch. With the exception of admitting you are from a CIA family, your letter contains one lie after another. Your letter is an obvious attempt by you and your superiors in the shadow government, to whom you answer, to discredit me, John De Camp (my hero), Ken Adachi and others who are not involved with your ilk in advancing the goals of the New World Order.

You state that I claim that Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch. I have never said that. I only stated that I have a confidential source who says Gannon is Johnny Gosch. Not very professional for someone who claims to be a journalist.

You claim your sister was molested in Omaha by Dick Cheney, was also molested by Nelson Rockefeller and she was acquainted with several principles of the "Franklin Cover Up."

John De Camp, Noreen Gosch, and I have been active in the investigation of the "Franklin Cover Up" for nearly two decades and this is the first we have heard of this concerning your sister. These statements are an attempt to "con" the readers of your open letter to Noreen into thinking that you are exposing these alleged pedophiles, when in reality, the story was investigated, written about, and documented by a British film company, years before you showed up on the scene (this is old news - but nice try Barbara).

You state I worked with your sister. I was not not aware that you had a sister until now.

You state that the only money you have received for your "work" has been from public contributions. You fail to mention that I have sent you money and financed a number of your expenses.

You state you are working with Stew Webb and Jackie McGauley. I have a video tape interview with Webb in which he admits he is an FBI informant. I will make this tape available to you at no cost. You claim to be a journalist so you need documentation for your work. I urge you to order this video tape.

You claim that Jackie McGauley, my former girl friend during the McMartin investigation, is the primary "whistle-blower" of the McMartin pre-school child abuse atrocities and not me. I never claimed I was.

You claim that McGauley raised the money for the archaeological McMartin tunnel dig. Quite an accomplishment for someone who was destitute at the time;

You claim McGauley threw me out of "her" house; (you mean the 'house' that I was paying the rent on?)

You claim that I left her in debt $30,000; (she was destitute when I met her); and that I stole $30,000 from her (she never had $30,000 in her life).

The truth is that I left McGauley because she was untruthful and unfaithful to me. I supported her and her two children for more that 4 years (this included rent, food, and ALL other expenses including clothes, electricity, water, and even an automobile) McGauley couldn't hold down a job because she couldn't get along with her employers. She was never employed while I was with her except for two jobs, which she couldn't hold down for more than 4 or 5 weeks and she never had money from any other source, except child support for her kids. I provided more than 90% of all support for her and her kids. After we broke up, she refused to return to me a number of costly items in the house that I had paid for and was the rightful owner of.

You and McGauley claim I had nothing to do with the McMartin case.

I arranged for and coordinated the McMartin tunnel dig. This was the very dig that produced the 186 pages of documented evidence, authored by archaeologist Dr. Gary Stickel of UCLA, that proved the existence of the tunnels under the McMartin preschool. These were the tunnels that the children from McMartin had repeatedly referred to in their testimony to therapists and investigators. Proving the existence of the tunnels under the McMartin school proved that the children were telling the truth all along and that they were not making up stories in response to 'leading questions' from their therapists, as falsely reported in the media and in the courtroom.

Review the McGauley and Dr. Gary Stickel Tunnel Report which was written after I left McGauley. Even though I spent $17,000 of my own money on the tunnel dig, signed the contract with the property owner, and assumed the entire liability; McGauley did list me in one place in that 186 page report as the "coordinator" (Thank you Jackie). Ask McGauley to furnish you a copy of the contract that I signed with the property owner and you will see that it doesn't have McGauley's name on it. The truth is that McGauley sold this report, made hundreds of dollars from its sale, and never sent any of the profits from the report to any of the other victim's families- the families who had funded the balance of the cost for the dig which ended up costing somewhere between $55,000 to $60,000. Jackie McGauley, for your information, did not contribute one dime to the cost of the dig.

You state Art Bell contacted you to be a witness against me in his lawsuit against me. Bell claimed I accused him of being a child molester (another lie). I have never said nor have I ever called Art Bell a child molester- on the radio or anywhere else.

Art Bell sued me for the purpose of destroying my reputation as you are attempting to do now and for the money which was given to him by my insurance company in an out-of-court settlement (that I did not want and was not a party to its agreement) rather than finance an expensive trial. (Didn't you notice that Bell retired after receiving the money?) The most ludicrous lie of all is your claim that I said John De Camp is a child molester. You just opened yourself up for a lawsuit.

It makes sense that you, Webb, Art Bell, and others would jointly defame those of us who are exposing the New World Order criminal conspiracy enterprise. You, Barbara, are an obvious CIA MK-ULTRA victim; Webb is an FBI informant; Bell is a liar and disinformation specialist for the dark side (which he clearly demonstrated in his recent radio interview with Ben Chertoff, the 911 conspiracy debunker), and Jackie McGauley, a 'wannabe' looking for attention and recognition. What a motley crew. You admit you were once in the CIA. There are no alumni in the CIA. Once a CIA agent, always a CIA agent. If you attempt to get out or expose them, you either go to jail or you die.

In summary, the world shall discover that you are part of a genuine evil conspiracy. The tactic that you are using is a 100% communist style smear campaign to take up the time of those who are devoted to investigating and discovering the truth with no or very little compensation. You and your criminal associates are pretenders. I'll give you credit for one thing -- you are very good with your campaign propaganda efforts. This is the first and last time that I shall rebut your lies as my time is valuable and I have more important things to do. Ultimately, truth shall triumph. I have always stood on truth. I refuse any further arguments with programmed propaganda idiots like you!

Your actions (lies) speak for themselves. Our accomplishments speak for us. Aside from your propaganda efforts, what have you, Webb, who shoots off his mouth with absolutely no documentation, Art Bell, and Jackie McGauley accomplished? Absolutely nothing, except give aid and comfort to the satanic One World Government traitors who would enslave us.

As the old Wendy's commercial used to state: "where's the beef?"

Shame on all of you. Do the righteous people of the world a service and, like other slimy creatures, slither back into the hole from which you came.

Ted L Gunderson, FBI-SAC(Ret)


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