David Icke Debunked?
From Ken Adachi, Editor
February 7, 2011
David Icke Debunked? (Feb. 7, 2011)
Subject: David Icke Debunked?
From: Joel (Australia)
Date: Sun, February 6, 2011
To: Ken Adachi
Firstly I'd just like to thank you for your wonderful website. It has awakened and inspired me more than I could have ever imagined.
I'm not sure if you have already seen this 2.5 hour film from Chris White but it is called David Icke Debunked (full Movie). Could you maybe share some of your thoughts and opinions on this?
Sincerley, Joel B.
I've never spoken to David Icke directly, although I attended his talk in Los Angeles around 2000 or 2001. I can't remember the date exactly. Brian Desborough told me about the talk and I went there and sat with him and Arizona Wilder while David gave his talk. After the talk, they went to a restaurant get-together with David, but I was not part of that invited group, so I talked to some other friends after the presentation and just went home.
I did talk to David' previous wife, Pamela, on several occasions over the phone and by e-mail. Pamela called me once to ask me if I would fill in for David for an internet radio show out of Canada that he was scheduled for, but couldn't make do to a schedule conflict. I did that show and was subsequently asked to do a few more.
So, I've had personal contact with David's former wife and Brian Desborough, whose name David Icke often mentioned in his books, at least the books he was publishing in late 1990s, but not with David Icke himself. He was kind enough to list my web site as a link in the first year or two that he had his web site. I have no idea if I'm still linked there today; probably not.
I've been a supporter of Dacid Icke's work since I started this web site. If you read my New World Order overview page, I mention both David Icke and Dr John Coleman as two of the best sources for researching about the New World Order, its players and its agendas.
My opinion hasn't changed.
Divd Icke is one of the most fearless and dedicated New World Order muckrakers on the planet and he's made a HUGE difference in exposing the NWO's diabolical plans and charades. Naturally, anyone who is as effective as David is in exposing the Illuminati's crap, is going to be targeted for takedown, Smear & Discrediting operations. So what else is new?
This is SOP for the Illuminati and their disinformation shills. In fact, the amount of effort to smear you is directly proportional to the damage you are doing to the Illuminati's takeover agenda.
There are a couple of things that David has talked about in his articles and books which I don't agree with, but by and large, David Icke is doing yeoman's work in helping the people of this planet wake up to the lies and decptions of the Illuminati and we need to honor him for that.
I haven't seen the video to which you allude, so I am unware of its contents, but I think I can safely guess that it will be mostly a woven tale of self-serving motivations, combined with shape shifting (or lip wetting) allusions that we are to interpret as sinister evidence that David's actually a closet reptilian secretly working for MI6 or the Rothchilds, or some similar plot.
Send me a link if that video is available on line and I'll take a look. It should be good for a few laughs.
Kind Regards, Ken
Subject: David Icke Debunked
Date: Mon, February 7, 2011
To: Ken Adachi
I would like to put in my two cents on the documentary 'David Icke Debunked'. When I first began researching the new world order several years ago, David Icke was one of the first researchers who intrigued me and I studied his work and have a couple of his books. I do not agree with all of Icke's conclusions but I would agree that a fair percentage of his work is valid and true.
What Chris White does in his documentary is evaluate some of Icke's work. He does not in any way attack Icke as a person. Chris takes a look at a couple of Icke's books and compares some of what he has said and written in the past with the written works of occultists. White also questions Icke's views on Christianity/Jesus.
I have found, as a critical thinker myself, questioning someone's work is not necessarily an attack on that person but a step in the process of evaluating someone's overall conclusions. As with every author of any kind of media, I don't agree with everything White says, but he does ask a valid question throughout the film. The question White asks is: how is one to know that the beings that Icke is in contact with are wholly benevolent toward mankind, especially since so much of Icke's spiritual 'leanings' mirror that of those 'on the dark side' so to speak?
While I think that is a valid question, I don't think one needs to view the film in order to answer that question. White did not address the presence of reptilians as thoroughly as I would have liked. In fact if I remember correctly, he kind of dismissed that whole thing which is one of the aspects of the film I disagreed with.
Other than that, the film did not change my view of Icke one bit. I've gotten into the habit of not 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' so to speak when it comes to research because it is impossible to agree with any one person on everything.
Here is the link if you want to kill a couple of hours -
OK, thanks. I'll take a look. Glad to hear it's not a cheap shot, slam piece. I've often mentioned in the past that David Icke's willingness to disavow the historical existence of Christ is playing into the hands of the Illuminati/Zionists who very much want to remove Christ and His message of brotherly love from humanity's consciousness.
They use frauds like Acharya S (real name D.M. Murdoch) to sell the idea that Christ did not really exist. He was merely a myth, she claims, created by the early church to justify their existence. The recorded historical evidence of Christ's time on earth (which she tries her best to distort or ignore in order to fit her ludicrous conclusions) is unassailable from well known historians of the time including Roman, Greek, and Persian texts.
Subject: Davi Icke Debunked ?
From: Joel (Australia)
Date: Mon, February 7, 2011
To: Ken Adachi
Thanks for your detailed response. I'm not sure if I should reply via the Email you sent to my mail box, or from your website. I'll just go with the site for now.
Here is the link to the 2.5 hour movie on Youtube.
I'm sure you can watch it in part by part videos on youtube as well.
The video talks a bit about David stealing his work from others includig some of his enlightenment ideas from Alice A Bailey, the Theosophist writer. I have read a few of her books and find them quite interesting. But I think to suggest that David 'steals' her ideas and others is kind of missing the point. I think your spot on when you mentioned 'woven tale of self-serving motivations, combined with shapeshifting allusions.' well said.
Joel, Brisbane Aus
Thanks. I posted your note and someone else sent a link to the Chris White web site where you can view the video.
In fairness, I have spoken with Dr John Coleman and he feels somewhat chagrined with David Icke for lifting substantial portions of Dr Coleman's published work, especially in David's earlier books, and not giving him proper credit. The Law of Cause & Effect has a way of coming around and kicking you in the butt when you least expect it. Perhaps, this will cause David to own up to certain things that David had overlooked when his star was ascending, and assuage bruised feelings suffered by others.
We'll see where this goes.
Subject: response to "Icke Debunked" article
From: Larry (Germany)
Date: Tue, February 8, 2011
To: Ken Adachi
I hope this finds you well- I think you have a truly wonderful website and I don't doubt your sincerity for one second-
All I can say to this is the following: after the events of 9/11 robbed me of my political virginity and feeling completely helpless I was handed a copy of Icke's"The Biggest Secret" (when the student is ready the teacher will appear)- I wouldn't recommend this book to rookies but because I'm a person who has had many bizarre,
unexplainable circumstances happening since my childhood (and they continue to this day, but not on a daily basis, thank God) I devoured this book like chocolate- it just felt "right" to me, despite how bizarre many of Icke's concepts may seem to other people- yes, Icke may not be perfect (who is?) but I think he's on the right
It never ceases to amaze me how an elite few are absolutely desperate to put the lid on truth-
So consider how much the following researchers are under attack: Jordan Maxwell, Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval, Joseph Farrell, Peter Levenda, Michael Tsarion, etc.
By the way, if you have not yet read Joseph Farrell's latest opus "Babylon's Banksters" you might want to consider doing so- it'll blow your mind as it did mine-
Many warmest regards,
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