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July 8, 2004

Subject: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 10:36 am
To: Editor@educate-yourself.org

Ken Adachi: I was hoping for an excellent reading until I got to the sentence;

" We are all IMMORTAL SPIRIT BEINGS who have lived out THOUSANDS of other physical lives here on earth before this one. Each time we die, we return to the spirit world and have a conference with wise counselors who review our life's history and help us decide on the best plan for our future and continued SPIRITUAL GROWTH. for our NEXT physical lifetime." I stopped! My scriptures state that we only live once, and then to die.

I have heard this unfounded story before from those who cannot believe in an immortal God, and try as I may, there is simply no reasoning to it. A person can disbelieve in God, but he will be always going against his conscience.

One of the most difficult requirements of Christians is to love people like you and respect your actions, knowing that you are incorrect. But we are commanded to still have faith in you from a God who made you and all. God made you, so who are we to condemn?

What is really important is the fact that you never know what living as a Christian is like. As an Atheist, you think you are your commander and need no one. Yet in reality, you do very much. You hurt yourself by being so hard headed and caring for no one. That isn't life, that's not caring; that's selfishness! No man is an island!

Perhaps one day God will open your eyes so you may see! I trust that He does.

Regards,

Bill Craig

Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 12:06 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>

Hi Bill,

You cannot coerce, force, or intimidate people into believing in a concept or point of view. So this reply is more of a courtesy to you rather than an attempt to change your mind. Insights are gained by internal evaluations and judgments, not from external coercion.

Let me just state a few things for the record:

1. I am certainly not an atheist and the fact that you accuse me of such is clear evidence that you are leading with your emotions and not with your brains. My web site if full of references to God and I have closed off many e-mails printed at my site with the words "God Bless". An atheist doesn't do such things.

2. While on earth, Jesus spoke of reincarnation. The information was removed from the Bible in 323 AD by the Council of Nicea. Ever heard of the "Book of Jubilees"? Ever heard of the "Apocrypha"?

3. How you connect a disbelief in God with a belief in reincarnation in beyond me. Your prejudice and lack of logic is leading the parade on that one.

4. Yes, "who are we to condemn?" Precisely. So why are you doing that? I may or may not be hard headed, but as to not caring for people, I let my web site (and readers) speak for me.

By the way, what are YOU doing to assist humanity beyond sending out condemnatory e-mails shouting out your rigid and self assured view of things?

Regards and God Bless, Ken

Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 1:30 pm
To: editor@educate-yourself.org

Dear Ken:

Thank you your prompt reply and for standing up for your beliefs, even as I know they are incorrect. Individual comments are below.

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From: <editor@educate-yourself.org>
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself

Hi Bill,

You cannot coerce, force, or intimidate people into believing in a concept or point of view. So this reply is more of a courtesy to you rather than an attempt to change your mind. Insights are gained by internal evaluations and judgements, not from external coersion.

Scriptures and facts elucidate me. The Bible is my proof.

Let me just state a few things for the record:

1. I am certainly not an atheist and the fact that you accuse me of such is clear evidence that you are leading with your emotions and not with your brains. My web site if full of referrences to God and I have closed off many e-mails printed at my site with the words "God Bless". An atheist doesn't do such things.

Excellent!

2. While on earth, Jesus spoke of reincarnation. The information was removed from the Bible in 323 AD by the Council of Nicea. Ever heard of the "Book of Jubilees"? Ever heard of the "Apocrypha"?

I am not Catholic and would not have little knowledge of The Book of Jubilees or the Apocrypha. Only the King James Bible has sufficiency for me. That's all! However, if you will read Hebrews 9:11 you will know that neither you nor I have ever been born before, nor shall we ever be born again. Words of Christ. The King James does not mention "reincarnation" within its covers.

3. How you connect a disbelief in God with a belief in reincarnation in beyond me. Your prejudice and lack of logic is leading the parade on that
one.

4. Yes, "who are we to condemn?" Precisely. So why are you doing that?

I am not condemning, only correctly informing.

5. I may or may not be hard headed, but as to not caring for people, I let my web site (and readers) speak for me.

Again, excellent!

By the way, what are YOU doing to assist humanity beyond sending out condemnatory e-mails shouting out your rigid and self assured view of things?

If God would allow me, I would relate what I am doing for my fellow man. But He doesn't allow that so I cannot inform.


Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 2:37 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>

Hi Bill,

Very good. You shall have the last word.

God Speed, Ken

Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 4:50 pm
To: editor@educate-yourself.org

I was not looking for the last word, Ken. I just want both of us to be correct when we use the tenets of God. I know He wants it that way. The Lord created a church before leaving for heaven. And today that church has many factions. Not one of them will meet His requirements but He is a forgiving God and I cannot worry about something I can do nothing about. Most all churches are corporations today and I know that is incorrect. For no State has power over Lord Jesus. The church is His --- forever.

I will follow your writings if you will relate the truth as you know it, and be subject to correction if not. Realizing that I don't know it all either!

 

Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 6:24 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>

OK, thanks for your thoughts.

Regards, Ken

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