----- Original Message -----
 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net>
 To: "Ken Adachi" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
 Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:57 PM
 Subject: Erroneous statements on http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

  Ken, I'm curious what your sources are for this so I can pin down who is
  spreading this misinformation (which discredits serious mind control
  research).

  My comments are shown in caps.

  You said:
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  The day is now approaching in which government mind control technologies will be directed at you, your neighbors, and your loved ones. Every single day, equipment is being erected and installed in this country with the hidden purpose of exerting mind control over the entire population. Everywhere in this country, AT&T microwave transmission towers are being erected. The antennae usually look like four vertical flattened pipes about 2 feet in length located in each corner of the tower,  two thirds up from the ground. Just look around, you'll see them. And you'll also notice more of them going up once you begin to pay attention. Do you really think that we need that much 'cell phone' transmission capability?

YES, OF COURSE. ARE YOU TRACKING THE EXPLODING INDUSTRY GROWTH?

Hardly. These mind control technologies have been in place for a long time.

WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

It's not an accident that the frequency band chosen for cell phone use (around 430 Mhz)

WRONG. CELL PHONES 0PERATE FROM 800 MHz TO 1900 MHz. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE  ZERO RESEARCH FOR THIS AND NEED TO "EDUCATE YOURSELF."

just happens to be the identical frequency range that Wilhelm Reich discovered in the late1940's to effect thought transmission and allow the mind to be manipulated without the victim realizing it.

TOTAL NONSNESE. I'M A REICH STUDENT AND THIS IS TOTAL NONSENSE. YOU MUST BE READING NUT CASE PRESTON NICHOLS AND HIS MONTAUK-PHILADELPHIA PROJECT-TIME TRAVEL IDIOCY.

Reich worked on this project secretly for the CIA for over 5 years

CARE TO PROVIDE SOME EVIDENCE FOR THAT?

until he realized who the CIA was planning to use the mind control -on the American people. Reich was murdered in Federal prison in 1957

EVIDENCE?

  ----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net>
To: "Ken Adachi" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Erroneous statements on http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

 BTW, there's nothing special about 450 MHz. It happens to be the frequency band used by police radios, so the equipment is easily available to researchers, but it is not the most effective frequency for "microwave hearing." Read Frey. Educate yourself
 

---- Original Message -----
From: "Editor" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
To: <west@sonic.net>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Erroneous statements on http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

 Hi Wes,

 Why do I hear from you now? When I sent you a few E mails over a year ago, you don't respond. When I tried to access the mc forum to do some research,  I find that I'm no longer a member and can't get on, even though I never unsubscribed from that list. So I figure it's just an inadvertent snafu and I re-apply for the mc forum, but again I find that I still can't get on. When I write you and ask you why I can't get on, you don't answer. Strange.

 Now, out of the blue, I get these two E mails from Professor Thomas lambasting me with his impolite, arrogant, and bombastic 'corrections' of my "erroneous misinformation".  Now that's even more curious Wes. Especially since I put you on to some leads that you were unaware of concerning Ghostwolf a couple of years ago; a man that has some wonderful things to say about you I've noticed.

Since you consider yourself such a high authority and 'serious' researcher in these matters, why don't you simply flood all the news groups and web sites that discuss mind control , Reich, Biowarfare, etc. with the admonition that everyone who wishes to post ANYTHING of these topics, should run it by you first, just so they don't run the chance of 'spreading misinformation'

Who knows? You may be able to manipulate and snooker them with the same ease you've hoodwinked the unfortunate people who look up to you on the mc forum.

Stranger things have happened.

Sincerely, Ken

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net>
 To: "Editor" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:44 AM
 Subject: RE: Erroneous statements on
 http://educate-yourself.org/mc/
 
 
  > Why do I hear from you now? When I sent you a few E mails over a year ago,  you don't respond. When I tried to access the mc forum to do some research,  I find that I'm no longer a member and can't get on, even though I never  unsubscribed from that list.

 Sorry, I don't remember who you are and I recall the emails. With more than 500 subscribers to my list, it's hard to keep track. I don't have anything  to do with the MC Forum, if by that you are referring to www.mindcontrolforum.com. My list is the MC list. If you'd send a blank message to mc-subscribe@topica.com, I'd be glad to approve your subscription. (Topica does not allow list owners to subscribe you directly  for your protection.)
 
 > When I write you and ask you why I can't get on, you don't answer. Strange.

 I don't recall that, but given the huge amount of mail I get (hundreds of messages a day), it's not strange that I miss some.
 
 > Now, out of the blue, I get these two E mails from Professor Thomas lambasting me with his impolite, arrogant, and bombastic  "corrections" of my "erroneous misinformation".  Now that's even more curious Wes. Especially  since I put you on to some leads that you were unaware of concerning Ghostwolf a couple of years ago; a man that has some wonderful things to say about you I've noticed.
 
Well, I appreciate that, of course, although I don't recall. Ghostwolf's statements are lies and libelous and he may be slapped with a lawsuit if he persists. I wrote you because one of my list members alerted me to your site.

 > Since you consider yourself such a high authority and 'serious researcher' in these matters, why don't you simply flood all the news groups and web sites that discuss mind control , Reich, Biowarfare, etc. with the  admonition that everyone who wishes to post ANYTHING of these topics, should run it by you first, just so they don't run the chance of 'spreading  misinformation'

 That's just silly. Instead of addressing my critique, you launch an ad hominem diversionary attack on me? No "authority" is needed to evaluate your site content. Five minutes on Google would allow you to "educate yourself" on the basics of cellular telephone frequency allocations. You could start with www.fcc.gov. If you disagree with my critique, why don't you present the evidence that I'm wrong. I would think you'd be appreciative of someone  helping you "educate yourself" before you attempt to educate others.

 > Who knows? You may be able to manipulate and snooker them with the same ease you've hoodwinked the unfortunate people who look up to you on the mc forum.

Manipulate, snooker, hoodwinked? Care to give me some specifics on these allegations, or are you just spouting off without researching the facts  again?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Editor" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
To: <west@sonic.net>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Erroneous statements on http://educate-yourself.org/mc/
 

 Hi Wes,
 
 Wow. What a turn around. From snarling attack dog in your previous E mail to the very epitome of calm reserve and tranquil retort. Impressive.
 
 No, I wasn't refering to the other forum, I was refering to your chat list. I often refer to chat sites as discussion or chat 'forums'. Just a habit of speech. Yes, if you could oblige me, I would like to read more in the mc archives at topica.
 
 It's unfortunate that you don't remember talking with me, you seemed to be so grateful at the time for the info I put you on to, but I suppose anyone who gets 500 E mails a day must be numb most of the time. A truly daunting  task to wade through all that.
 
 If Ghostwolf's remarks are so slanderous, then why haven't you sued him? Could it be that you're too shy to make a public court appearance, less you get served by Ghostwolf's lawyers with his own lawsuit against you?  Just wondering.
 
 Anyway, if I get the urge to tap into your extraordinary knowledge base on Reich, mind control frequencies, etc., I'll certainly let you know. In the meantime, I'll just fumble along on my own.
 
 Concerning your chat list, the swiftness with which you delete members who post messages that don't quite fit your 'criteria' have been brought to my attention by more than one person. It seems, according to these folks anyway, that you have little tolerance for messages that contain any sort of spiritually uplifting theme. Who knows? Maybe it's just them.
 
 I've also noticed, when I was able to access the list a couple of years ago, that you often poohed poohed ideas from mc victims who were trying to discover methods to minimize or eliminate psychotronic attacks. I guess your disbelief in the work of Preston Nichols and Reich mind control, etc.,  have something to do with your aversion to that area of research.
 
 Anyway, you're far too busy to concern yourself with such a misinformed and unknowledgeable person as myself as to waste your valuable time trying to bring me up to speed.  Far better that you save your intellectual resources  for those who can more fully appreciate your superb acumen and startling erudition.
 
 Sincerely, Ken