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Transcription of Feb. 24, 2011 Radio Interview with Don Nicoloff, Ken Adachi & ZS Livingstone

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Transcription of Feb. 24, 2011 Radio Interview with Don Nicoloff, Ken Adachi & ZS Livingstone (Nov. 12, 2011)

Evident Footprints Interview on BBS Radio
~ ACE: Aetheric Coronal Elements ~
Don Nicoloff, Ken Adachi, and ZS Livingstone
February 24, 2011

Transcription date:  November 11, 2011
Transcribed by: <kamele2353@gmail.com>

Audio:  http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/KenAdachiZSL24feb11interview.mp3   1:35:40

Participants:  Don Nicoloff, Ken Adachi, and ZS Livingstone

[Introduction]

Don:  Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Evident Footprints on bbsradio.com. I am your host, Don Nicoloff, and I'll be with you for the next hour on this February the 24th on the West Coast, now February the 25th on the East Coast and in the Central Time Zone. We'd like to welcome anyone listening in on WindTalkers Radio Network around the world. Of course, that's over the airwaves. For those of you who have tried to find WindTalkers on the Internet, you're not going to do that. You have to be in an area where one of their network members is actually broadcasting the show, and that's virtually all over the planet. So, we're happy to have them with us.

What's going on in the world? Well, there's stories that the U.S. Air Force is rescuing victims in New Zealand. If that's really occurring, that's good news. It's amazing that they didn't come to the rescue of anyone on 9/11, when I think about it; or New Orleans, when we had Hurricane Katrina. Where was the Air Force then? Or Oklahoma City? Or Waco? Why weren't people being rescued? Why were people being murdered senselessly? That's just part of what's going on. And it's like a broken record. It's a story that just keeps repeating itself and repeating itself. And people are being swept up with chaos, and fear, and innuendo, and lies, and all kinds of Draconian legislation that's all null and void, because it's being created by infiltraitors, usurpers, people that can't even prove they're human beings. Think about that. And these conditions and these events that have been occurring are starting to catch up with the everyday consciousness of the average person out there on the street.

And while you consider that, consider in your own mind some of the things that have gone on, and what you might do to right the wrongs that are being committed against humanity. And listen to a Street Rhyme

[MUSICAL INTERLUDE]

Boy! If the music of Mike Stern and Street Rhyme can't make you tap your toes and feel good, despite what's going on in the world, I don't know what can. This music is heard throughout the Galaxy of Hendon as we speak. And I hope our friends out there, who are laboring diligently on our behalf, are enjoying at least the opening of tonight's show, and hopefully the rest of it.

I'm about to bring our guests on board. Our first guest hosts a website, educate-yourself.org, one of the most popular sites in the world! And we've got him with us tonight. He himself is a researcher, a journalist, an essayist, and a metaphysician, and a counselor to many, many troubled people around the world - my good friend, Ken Adachi. Ken, welcome to the show.

Ken:  Hi Don! Thank you very much.

Don:  Nice to have you with us. I'm going to go ahead and bring our second guest on, so we can all say, "Hello" to each other at the same time, and get that out of the way. He is also an essayist, and his work is featured at educate-yourself.org - metaphysician, intuitive, a par excellence, we'll say - my good friend from Canada, Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone. ZS, welcome to the show.

ZS:  Thank you, Don.

Don:  Nice to have you both with us. How do you like the music so far tonight? Does it make you feel like tapping your toes and getting up… ?

ZS:  Very, very, very perky… and perky!

Don:  Outside the box, too.

ZS:  Yes, it is.

Don:  Very outside the box, and that's why I played it. It's outside the box. It lets you feel the rhythm of the universe without the clichés.

Ken:  Mm-hmm.

Don:  Very creative. Michael Stern is an awesome guitarist / an awesome composer, and he's doing the scatting while he's playing, too.

Ken:  Ohhhh.

Don:  Very, very good. Gentlemen, on our last few shows we've been talking about all sorts of things, false flag events and our interpretation of what's going on. Anything on either one of your hearts that you want to bring up for discussion tonight?

Ken:  Well, I'd like to perhaps talk about a few areas. One is the nature of creativity. Last night I listened to your show with Christopher Holmes and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed listening to what Christopher had to say. His observations, as were yours, were right on the money as to the nature of who we're dealing with in the New World Order and the nature of their criminality and their amoral conduct. It's complete; it couldn't be any more grotesque than what we're experiencing. So, he saw it correctly, and I was just gratified to hear him just repeating what we all know to be true, but nevertheless hearing it from another person. It's still satisfying, in a way. You made a remark to him when you were talking about curbing rain in your area.

Don:  Mm-hmm. All sorts of…

Ken:  And it stuck in my mind what you said. You had said essentially that you can steer the course of weather by your will / by your volition. And of course, I have frequently put that idea to words on my website. I've said many times - it's not my idea; it's merely a metaphysical observation, but I believe it's true - that you can create with your mind; thoughts can create reality, and that the more vigorous, let's say, the thought process is, typically in obtaining something via this process to create something, we normally couple a thought with an emotion. It seems that the power of emotions seem to act like a carrier wave, if you will. And if the person who is trying to achieve something through his thoughts is very, let's say, laid-back about it / not committed to it / very lackadaisical, let's say, or doing it in a very …

Don:  Impassionate, maybe?

Ken:  Mild-mannered way, without any real emotional commitment behind it, it doesn't carry the signal nearly as well, as when you couple it with emotion. Now the emotion could be one of wanting to stop the New World Order, so it could be based on anger. But the most important / powerful emotion is the emotion of love. It's a feeling that you can use to sort of direct your thoughts into creating the world that you'd like to experience. Now, if more people were to, merely as an experiment, try to simply use their mind, and for instance, try to direct the course of weather, either to, let's say, stop rain or to have it steer north, like you were mentioning in your response to Christopher, or perhaps, bring rain to some of those parts of the world where there are droughts, you can call for rain. And you can ask your spiritual helpers to assist you in this endeavor. And you can essentially talk to your higher self. And your higher self has a communication channel to other beings in the universe, who can, let's say, speed up the action or help in the call.

But, if when you're, let's say, experiencing rough weather - too rough, perhaps, it's raining too hard or too long, or it's snowing too much, or the wind's howling too strong - instead of merely accepting the weather, saying, "Gee, this is terrible", express a thought to try to change the weather. In other words, you won't know it could possibly work unless you try it. So, that's the first thought I wanted to get out. I'm just using the weather as an example. This can apply to anything.

Don:  Mm-hmm. Can I comment on what you just said?

Ken:  Yeah.

Don:  Okay. May I comment on what you said? [Chuckles] We got that straight, okay? You give me permission. [Chuckles] I once prayed to God for the knowledge about the nature of the weather we're having, because I felt in my spirit that this is all unnatural; that this is being orchestrated, because nature (in and of itself) is not destructive in the universal sense. In terms of the creation, nature is an ever-evolving entity or being, if you want to use that term. It permeates everything. Why does it have to be destructive on Planet Earth? What's causing it to be destructive? And I said, "Well, God, if You are capable of stopping this, why don't You command it to stop?" And He said, "Well, you're capable of doing it, too. Why should I do for you what you can do yourself?" Now, I didn't hear the voice of God, but that understanding / that response flowed through my being. And so, I looked at it and said, "Well, He said 'Command', so I command the weather to do that". If it's going to be violent and destructive, I command it to go elsewhere.

Now, I spoke to someone just this evening that told me that they had prayed that a tornado leave their area. It was coming upon them. It was very near to where they were, and it left. They commanded it to leave. So, I'm not the only one that's doing this. But it's a demonstration of this ability that we all have. The difference is I'm using it and a lot of others aren't. So, that's my comment, Ken. Didn't want to interrupt you.

Ken:  Good point. And you just said it right there: You use it, and others don't. So…

Don:  Ken, could you speak up a little it louder, please?

Ken:  Yes. Your last statement says it all: You use it and others don't. And that's the point of starting with this discussion.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

Ken:  We have the ability to create, and if you don't use it, you can't take advantage of it. If you merely accept whatever conditions that are being forced upon you, whether it's by the New World Order gang trying to turn this country into a police state; whether it's some injustice in some quarter of your life; or even if it's, let's say, a health malady, if you don't apply the principle of creative thought you won't gain any benefit from it. So, you have to try it in order to see whether it works. Now, a one-time trial is not what I'm talking about. The principle is true. The idea is true. We do create reality with our thoughts. The more you think of it - whatever you're trying to create - the more energy you're giving into it. The more people who join with you with the same thought, the greater the energy is and the more quickly, usually, that the change occurs in the direction that you want it to go.

Don:  Yeah. And I think it's totally dependent upon the approach. If you are fearful, or you're apathetic, or lazy about it, you are merely accepting the reality presented to you, which is one of illusion. That's basically what Christopher and I talked about. We've all talked about that on past shows. So, the key is to be able to focus on something that can be real that is within your grasp. But you have to take a proactive approach to creating it. We've been allowing others to creative the reality for us, and we have what they've created.

Ken:  Right.

Don:  And it's very destructive, isn't it?

Ken:  Yes.

Don:  It's not rewarding. It's not enriching for anyone but those that run it. And I don't mean in a financial sense. I'm talking about the power that's being manifested. And it's being used for negative purposes / for destructive purposes, counter to the creation. It's the opposite of what we can do.

Ken:  Absolutely. So, another area to consider is that what you allow yourself and your loved ones to be exposed to, especially children, makes a difference on the creative force that will emanate from their thoughts. Do not allow your kids to be influenced by destructive movies / by destructive music / by negative music / by horror films. Anything that has a theme of destruction is going to reverberate within you. Consciously or subconsciously it has the greatest impact on kids. So, the horror film industry has a much darker purpose behind it. Now, I can remember some people, particularly, if you recall movies, we had a type of horror film in the 30's and 40's, Frankenstein and The Wolfman, and that type of thing.

Don:  Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman… and The Swamp Creature.

Ken:  Yeah. It was scary, but they weren't especially gory.

Don:  Yeah.

Ken:  In the 50's, horror movies sort of intensified in gore. And by the 60's and 70's and 80's, the gore just went off - you know, the visual gore - just went off the chart; Texas Chainsaw Murders and that type of stuff.

Don:  Yeah. You have to see the blood spewing out of the victim, and the head being chopped off, and body parts, and yeah, very graphic.

Ken:  Now, the people who make those films are really working for the Luciferian agenda. Of course, they're making money. That's why they do it. They always do it for that reason. But there's always this darker emphasis going on in the background. Now, I didn't know that when I was younger, but I know it now. And therefore, parents should know that television shows - if you're still watching television - (I haven’t seen TV since they turned off the analog transmitters, and I don't miss it) however, if you are watching it, don't allow yourself or your kids to watch programs that are overall negative in character.

These dog-eat-dog shows / reality shows are what I'm talking about. It's an example of dwelling on the worst in human nature. It's sort of encouraging people to behave in a dog-eat-dog fashion. All of this is intentional, because we create or allow, let's say, the Dark Side to have their way with us, because we allow ourselves to be influenced by their movies, their music, their television shows, their news - the stuff that we get on the news - the doom-and-gloom promoters on the Internet that I often remark about, these groups are working on behalf of the Luciferian agenda. You have to remember that.

It's okay to be informed so you know what they're up to and what they're doing, but you should not view it as entertainment. They're trying to mold your thoughts to fit their agenda, which is death and destruction. By thinking things positive / thinking about the political defeat of the politicians in Washington (who are enabling the New World Order), thinking about that daily, and doing something proactive. Organize with people in your neighborhood; start getting involved in the political process. You can… it doesn't take that long to get involved; to become involved in local / state politics; you can get to be a delegate to the state convention; you can have a say in who's being nominated. You should try to look for anti-New World Order candidates - men and women of morality and character. We shouldn't postpone this. It would be a good idea to put some decent people in the next election in 2012.

And we have to get rid of those who have done so much to damage this country. The people who vote for the Patriot Acts, for the Military Commissions Acts, or any of these anti-Constitutional things, who vote for that Food Safety Bill - these people need to be removed from office. They're traitors - they're trying to destroy the country. So…

Don:  They are destroying it. Yeah.

Ken:  Yeah. That's the main thing I wanted to bring up in my talk here is that use your mind and your thoughts in a creative way for anything. Positive affirmations is merely a repetition in your mind of the way you want something to turn out. If you have a health problem, get in a quiet, meditative state and for 15 or 20 minutes silently repeat to yourself that you are becoming free of the malady. Many people have cured themselves of cancer using their own mind alone.

Don:  Yeah. It really comes from the heart.

Ken:  Absolutely. But this can apply to anything. We can create reality with our thoughts. So, avoid negative, destructive thoughts and the emotions that engender them, and emphasize and concentrate on overcoming all manifestations of the New World Order. We have a lot of corrupt officials now in every area of official life. People who should be enforcing the law are breaking the law. The highest political leaders are as corrupt as you can possibly be.

And we have a Justice Department; we have an FBI that's not serving justice or The Constitution or any of the right things they ought to be serving. They're in bed with these corrupt forces, the CIA, etc. Oh, by the way, Japan (I just read in a news article) is now talking about forming a new spy agency based on the CIA and MI5 / MI6. If anyone in Japan is hearing this, please, I hope the Japanese populace gets wind of this and takes action quickly to stop that from happening. Nothing has aided in the destruction of the United States, and the people, and The Constitution than the CIA. And I could say the same thing for Britain with MI5 and MI6. These agencies are at the heart of wickedness, skullduggery and negative conduct.

The Japanese people and the Japanese life is much more civil than it is here. And it's much more less-corrupt than it is here, by a large margin. I hate to see them go down the route of / based on the fear of China or North Korea. They can have intelligence; they already have intelligence services with their military. They don't need a giant spy agency, so they can do as much destruction and false flag events as the CIA or MI6

Don:  This is all brought about, Ken, by who's at the helm in each country. These decisions are made by the same group putting pressure / putting economic pressure or threats of dragging another country into a war, or cutting off funding, or cutting off the trade routes, or those kinds of things. It's been going on for thousands of years - the same things. Just right now there's technology involved. That's the difference. But at the same time, people are here to awaken to these things - not just here in America - everywhere.

Not that I want to change gears here, but we have another guest who's been waiting very quietly.

Ken:  Yeah. I just pretty much did want to finish up with that. ZSL has some vey interesting news that he'll bring forth on his half of the show. So, I'll be here, Don, but I'd like to hear ZS…

Don:  Okay. ZS, do you want to comment on what Ken and I were talking about?

ZS:  Right. Individual responsibility for just accepting your own ability to change the weather is a breakthrough thought for most people. Most people are so brainwashed and disenfranchised into understanding what their spiritual power is that…

Don:  Yes, ZS, can you speak up a little bit more, please? Maybe position your mic a little closer.

ZS:  Yeah.

Don:  Alright.

ZS:  I tilted it up.

Don:  Okay. Thank you.

ZS:  So, the people have the power to change the weather, like you do, like Ken does. I've demonstrated for my own to see that I could do it.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And I could do it. And in communicating with the Mother Earth and coordinating with her as to what is the best weather, I came to realize how the air elementals work with the weather, and it's best work in love and in conjunction with the Sylphs - or as the natives call them, the Thunderbirds - and become a grounding point for the energy / for bringing through the physical body the energy which they need in order to do their work - their transmuting work - in the atmosphere, removing chemtrails or moving thunderstorms in or moving them around to meet the needs of the greatest good for the greatest number of people, and animal / plant kingdoms on the Earth.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And they have that responsibility given to them by Mother Earth. And the good news, which Ken and I've been talking about for the last month or so, is that their ability is now increasing.

Don:  Their - meaning the elementals?

ZS:  The elementals - all the elementals - the air, the water, the Earth, and fire elemental. And it's of the nature of the fire elemental that's spreading out and the air is picking it up; and the water elementals are picking it up, as well, and receiving through the aegis of Mother Earth and also from the Sun, Aetheric Coronal Elements, which is something which they had thousands of years ago, but was taken from them by the conquests of the planet by the reptilians, who stole the substance: the Golden Fleece, Jason's Golden Fleece, or the burning bush… the power of the Ark of the Covenant. It is actually the swamp gas, which they've mentioned since the 1950's, as something to persuade people that the UFO that they just saw is not a UFO - it's swamp gas. But swamp gas is something important. [Chuckles]

Don:  [Chuckling:] Yeah. Exactly. Well, as you're speaking, I'm getting images of the people that may be hearing this for the first time. Elementals, in terms of the indigenous people here in America were known. And they were - I don't want to say they were worshipped - but they were honored.

ZS:  They're brothers and sisters.

Don:  Yes. And when you take oil out of the ground, you're removing elementals.

ZS:  And minerals.

Don:  And minerals. When you take minerals and metals out of the ground, all of these things have nature or nature spirit in them. And the elementals are assigned to those particular areas where they exist. They're sort of, if you want to use the term, grounding. Now, that's difficult for a lot of people. What are you saying? Are you saying, "Gold is alive"? Well, yes, actually gold is alive. It grows. Why can't it have some essence or something living associated with it? When you take these things out of the ground, they're now up on the surface. And that makes for a chaotic situation, doesn't it?

ZS:  Yes. There's toxicities there. And the, well, gold actually does work with the Aetheric Coronal Element, and is actually important in working with it. About 200 years ago, after the rediscovery of Pompeii, and a lot of archaeologists started digging into Italy, and went into some of the old ancient Roman tombs, and inside the tombs they found these lamps which had been buried like 1500 / 1600 years earlier, and they were still glowing. They were called inextinguishable lamps. And there was a lot written on them, and there was also attempts to make these lamps again. And of course, they would probably be using asbestos and whale oil - huge supplies of whale oil - but these lamps were globes about 10 inches in diameter, glass, and they emitted light. And they're not connected to a power source. They just continuously emitted light. And what they had in them was a very fine membrane of gold on the inside of the glass, and an ounce of the light of the Sun, or the heat of the Sun - the Aetheric Coronal Elements, and spelling it a-e-t-h-e-r-i-c - the old way - the acronym comes out A-C-E.

And I've written many essays on the substance. And it is a 4th-dimensional substance. It is also, I believe, it's the 25th, 26th, and 27th elements on the 4th-dimensional periodic table. And it is permanently ionized in the same way that the ferromagnetic elements in our dimension are permanently, magnetically ionized, and are energy portals or doorways, which those people who are working with over-unity, the magnetic engines are finding that it's a permanent source of energy. And the energy's actually coming from higher dimensions, and it precipitates / drops from one dimension to the next dimension, following an ionization… [lost transmission]… have a magnet and you pass it by / you spin it around / through / past a wire, it will discharge or cause electrons to move at 90 degrees to the magnetic field. Reversing that, if you have electrons moving in a wire, you're generating a magnetic field 90 degrees to the flow of electricity.

And the light of the Aetheric Coronal Elements is actually a 5th-dimensional energy ionized, causing a magnetic ionization in the 4th dimension, and then in turn causing ionization of light into electromagnetic emission of light into a 3rd dimension, and…

Don:  Mm-hmm. In a past show, ZS, that I did with scientist / inventor, Jim Murray, we were talking about how Nikola Tesla discovered that even though he was passing electricity through a wire, from say, point A to point B, there was actually electricity in the air that was moving in the same direction, but outside of the wire - totally outside…

ZS:  Yes. Right. Called electromagnetic force, EMF. There's a 4th-dimensional effect, which is always working hand-in-hand with the electrical action. Of course, we put meters and gauges on the electrical flow, but we're not recording what's happening magnetically. There's an equal or greater amount of energy flowing around the wire than flowing in the wire.

Don:  Yes.

ZS:  And people working with - like William Baumgartner and others (who just passed away here in Salmon Arm) - were working with row mag machines and working with what they call cold electricity, and were able to get over-unity energy coming through when you get the magnets perfectly balanced. With Aetheric Coronal Elements I'm going back to a very… the actual technology, which nature uses to empower all the plants and animals and humans, and provide energy constantly where you don't need to tap, or build a dam, or mine coal, or dig up uranium in order to generate electricity. You always have it with you at that point.

And when Moses saw the burning bush, he was seeing a little bit of sun sitting in a bush in the Sinai area… and it was emanating light.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  He had trained in the Egyptian ways of magic and also the pharaonic traditions of that time and could understand that he was seeing a power source, which he could use and he could use better than any other person on the planet at that time. And he is the one who built the Ark of the Covenant, which was a communication device to our Galactic brotherhood and sisterhood. And he was able to hold onto it, even though the reptilians who were stealing it away from the planet and disenfranchising the animal and plant kingdoms and taking their light source from… an alternate… there's actually two routes of light into the body: one, through the consciousness, through the top of the head, through the shock resistant. Then we're also fed through the down stepping of energy through the Sun to us. The corona of the Sun is 1 to 2-million degrees temperature, but it's disconnected / it's separate from the surface by about 100,000 miles. And the surface of the Sun is 8,000 degrees. There's a huge mystery there. How is it that you have a 1 to 2-million degree oven surrounding a body, yet the body inside it is cooler than the outside? And the light is moving from in to out, heating up the whole solar system. NASA doesn't give you answers for that.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  That is the way that God created light from first cause to radiate to the kingdoms on Earth. It also gave in the creation of life on the Earth, the ability to use the substances inside their own substance. And…

Don:  Yes. It's information. It's just not light waves, but it contains information that…

ZS:  It's an actual 4th-dimensional substance.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  But of course, it has a very feather-like weight to it. It does have weight. A 4th-dimensional substance does have weight. Just like Sir William Crookes in the 1880's, did weigh the weight of a soul of a departing person in his laboratory in England as 22 grams. And that information was - of course, is not in the textbooks now - but if you really dig for it you'll find it. There is weight to aetheric substance.

Don:  Yes. There were several scientists actually doing experimentation on that - not very much - and a lot of that was done at the time of death. They would weigh a body before death occurred and they'd weigh it after death occurred, and there was a very slight difference.

ZS:  Yes. It averaged around 22 grams. And Sir William Crookes had hundreds of people will - or make a living will - as they approached death; and they'd go into his laboratory and they'd sit in this almost like a bell jar on a scale. And he'd have self-contained air inside this bell jar, and when they expired he counted all the breath that they had and all the… everything was contained within / hermetically sealed within that jar, except the soul. And when the soul left, the little scale tilted. And I'm saying that the Aetheric Coronal Elements, which is part of - it is the corona of the Sun, and can also be the substance for over-unity devices, which nature would have us have, had the reptilians not stolen it away for their evil purposes. And the disenfranchisement / disempowerment of humanity and the kingdoms then we would be living tens of thousands of years.

Like in the Bible, there is Adam lived 910 years. Four thousand years ago, Abraham lived a hundred… almost 200 years. His sister / wife, Sarah, had Isaac at age 90. And then life expectancy dropped off after that. In India, and other parts of the world, there's tens of thousands of people who are living breatharians. They eat very little.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And the practice, which has brought them into their empowerment, is meditating upon the Sun as it rises at dawn. And they stare at the Sun, and in the meditation they are actually drawing from the Sun Aetheric Coronal Elements into their bodies and a small bit - maybe a single atom - of aetheric material goes into the cell and becomes the power source / a permanent power source like the mitochondria organelles in each cell; and might sit on that organelle and produce the heat specific to the Krebs cycle energy, which is a very specific photon of light that gives your / our body temperature of 98.6. It's a red photon, if you want to know what the color is for it.

And photosynthesis, where the green leaves, what they're doing is pulling the red light out of the white light and leaving green. And they're using that red light from the Sun in a very complex reaction - chemical and transmutation reaction - in the cell, the chloroplasts of plants, to hold and preserve in sugar - simple sugars - the energy of that red photon.

Don:  And we know that plants also have a consciousness.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  Open and close with the rising and the setting of the Sun; react to certain types of individuals and their energy fields, especially when they're negative a plant will exhibit all kinds of problems, including illness or death.

ZS:  Right. People put very sensitive galvanometers onto plant leaves to be able to read those emotions off the electrical activity of the plant leaf, and…

Don:  Mm-hmm. You know what comes to mind, ZS? I don't mean to cut you off, but you sounded like you finished that sentence, so I jumped in. While you were talking, I was recalling some of the things that were told to us in science class in school. They would describe inanimate objects as being just matter - dead matter: stones or rocks or mountains, things that are there for a reason and have a purpose / they serve some purpose, but because science doesn't have the answer, or doesn't want us to know the answer, it doesn't mean that we can't determine those things. I find living things under rocks all the time; you know, in my research, I find snakes and scorpions, and every kind of vermin you can imagine.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  And I'm using a metaphor in a sense, but those rocks are very unhappy about the snakes that are hiding underneath them. [Chuckles] They're conscious.

ZS:  Yes, they are.

Don:  And I think you get my point - it's sort of tongue-in-cheek.

ZS:  Well, those who control the finances have bought the science that they want. They bought the science that disenfranchises people from nature.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And steals the power and the wonderment of nature from the consciousness.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  People don't recognize that they have the power to ask for a storm to move to the north.

Don:  Yeah. Ken brought up an interesting thing when he was talking about reality shows. I mean, what kind of reality is that?  Is that…

ZS:  Unreality shows.

Don:  Well, yes. But I mean, they call them reality shows; they show a bunch of teenagers living, or even adults living in a house together being dysfunctional. And somehow this is supposed to have a happy ending, or it's supposed to mean something worthwhile?

ZS:  Voting oneself off the island, or somebody else off the island?

Don:  Oh, I'm not even talking about that. I mean, if you were to go to MTV and watch these people that are just eating and drinking and sleeping (sleeping with each other); going out to party; getting into all kinds of ridiculous situations that nobody really has time for, unless that's all they do in their life. So, they're teaching through propaganda and through imagery dysfunctional living. These people are totally dysfunctional.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  They're dishonest with each other; they're dishonest to themselves. There's no purpose / there's no point in all of this, other than how it's being directed against the consciousness of humanity. Too, for the purpose of stifling it, you see? And the things you're talking about / understanding these things about nature, these are not myths… And we're speaking in generalities, too. We're not getting into the specific physics or mathematics or metaphysics of these things. We're making authoritative proclamations based on our experience and our knowledge. And these aren't belief systems either, are they?

ZS:  No. They're actual experiences. And I could get into detail on the metaphysics of it and tie it in to our what we determine as has been called our physics of this day, which is actually a very weak form of physics.

Don:  Yes. Well, let's do that in a couple of minutes. I want to give the listening audience a chance to sort of absorb everything we've been talking about and veg out for a couple of minutes. [Chuckles]

ZS:  Well, talking to Ken earlier, he wants to bring a message of hope and the intent of bringing this substance up - this ACE: Aetheric Coronal Elements up - is to show that the elemental kingdom is being empowered again. And they are packing heat.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  I mean, they will be able to do more and be able to clean up conditions more. An underwater elemental in the Gulf of Mexico with a bit of ACE can transmute the poison that corrects it.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And that's one of the purposes. And just last week, the Undines received the cure for corrects it. And they'll be able to take the arsenic and what other heavy metals which have been thrown in to kill off the bacteria (which normally would eat the oil seeps from the Gulf Basin and convert it into fish food), will now have assistance from the inter-dimensional creatures called Undines, carrying ACE, enabled through the plant and animal kingdoms that are still living in the ocean, and clear the many, many hundreds of tons of poisons in the water.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And so, that's the message of hope.

Don:  ZS, before we go on any further, I want to just interject something and just go into a musical interlude for a moment. That's what I was alluding to. Maybe I didn't say it specifically enough. But as one opens up to themself / as one searches within their heart to understand their true essence, there's a message that comes out. I've experienced this and I've talked to many, many other people who've had the same awakening. You come to a point where you see yourself as if you're outside yourself. And yet, there's a knowing inside. And this happens to be the title of this song I'm going to play here:  I Know You
[MUSICAL INTERLUDE begins at 00:56:49]
You know, ZS, that's the bliss that Ken was talking about. [ZS chuckling] You know, I was seeing colors all through that. Give me your impressions of that. That again was Mike Stern, by the way, guitarist.

ZS:  Wow. Her voice was absolutely perfect to the note.

Don:  [Chuckling:] His voice.

ZS:  His voice!

Don:  That's falsetto.

ZS:  Falsetto. Oh wow. I thought it was a woman. It's just absolutely right to the, perfectly to the note.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And it was comforting - incredibly comforting.

Don:  Yeah. It gets…

ZS:  I didn't fall asleep, no. But [Chuckling]…

Don:  Yeah. I saw / I see colors in music anyway.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  But that song definitely is healing, and it's expansive, and it's self-empowering, and it puts you in touch with your real essence. I mean, it's a perfect title: I Know You. What does that mean, I know you? Notice it's not saying, "I believe in you". I know you, you see.

Ken:  Don, if I could interject.

Don:  Go ahead. Sure, Ken.

Ken:  First, the song was wonderful. Beautiful choice, Don. As you said, I felt all the sort of relaxing and comforting feelings that you and ZS both alluded to. Excellent piece. I'd never heard that before. So, a great performance.

I'd like to add just a couple of notes about what ZSL has brought up tonight, because I'd like to emphasize it for listeners who've only heard the term tonight for the first time. ZS has been writing about this topic for a few years on my website. There's a number of essays on ZS's / ZS Livingstone's page. He has his own index page. All his essays are listed there in chronological order, as they were sent to me. And if you go there and scroll down, you'll encounter 5, or 6, or 7, or 8 essays that mention the word, Aetheric Coronal Element, which is abbreviated ACE, A-C-E, in the title of those essays. So, if you want to understand more beyond what you heard tonight, it would be a good idea to read his essays.

I'd like to emphasize that ZS has brought up a new subject that prior to him telling me about it I had never heard about it in my life. He's talking about an element that is not found on the Periodic Charts of Elements. It's not a 3rd-dimensional element; it's an element of the 4th dimension. It surrounds the Sun, and which is why, I suppose, he's saying that the Sun's corona is so much more intensely hot than the surface of the Sun, because it is imbued with this 4th-dimensional element, Aetheric Coronal Element.

Now, what he said in the beginning of the show is that a change has taken place. He didn't go into the details, but he has / he's privy to important information in which he found out that a decision was made to allow the Earth elementals - the Sylphs in the air who are working so hard to detoxify chemtrails; the Undines underwater; the other elementals of the mineral and the plant kingdom, have all been given a gift that's occurred in just the last couple of months. And that gift is that they now, once again, can use and utilize ACE, Aetheric Coronal Element.

In olden days, as ZS tells me, that the lore - Chinese lore - about fire-breathing dragons in the air, in fact, refer to Sylphs that possessed ACE many thousands of years ago, and were literally able to breathe this fire, if you will. And now that the elemental kingdom - including the fire elementals - now have ACE, we're going to start hearing and seeing / witnessing things that are going to be video-taped, and they're going to wind up on YouTube and pictures, and people are going to say, "My God, what is that? What's going on here?" And what we're going to be seeing is that the elements / the elemental kingdom is going to do some serious house cleaning in the coming months and years, utilizing this ACE.

Don:  Starting with the Federal Reserve, by any chance?

Ken:  Well, hopefully. [Chuckles] We're going to see things in which poisons that have been injected into the air, the water, etc., are going to be detoxified. And it's going to be because of this gift that was recently given to the elemental kingdom.

The last thing I want to mention in this regard is that I have a link on my website - it's at the top of my page where all my linked index pages are. It's titled T Lobsang Rampa, and it's a wonderful story about a man, who was, in fact, a British man, but his body was taken over by the soul of an Asian man, who had extraordinary experiences in his life. And during this man's lifetime, he took on the name of T Lobsang Rampa, changing it from his original British name. He published 17 books; they're very important books. I learned a great deal of metaphysical information especially from those books. You can obtain them all free online through that link on my website. In many of those books, he talks about / T Lobsang Rampa talks about visiting ancient caves, mostly in the Himalayas, as a young man, in which he discovered the very globes of continuously illuminating light that ZS talked about in the beginning of his talk.

I had no idea that they were being / that the power source was Aetheric Coronal Element. I just learned that tonight, but you'll find the corroboration of what ZS said in the beginning of his talk in the books of T Lobsang Rampa. I can't remember which specific books - probably, Cave of the Ancients will certainly have some. So, if you get to read those books, remember what ZS said earlier about those globes, because Lobsang Rampa does talk about that very thing in his books.

Don:  And I think The Third Eye mentions some of that.

Ken:  Okay. You might be right. I read them all, but it was quite some time ago. But so anyway, I just wanted to add that bit of corroboration to what ZS was bringing up tonight.

Don:  Mm-hmm. I read those many, many years ago.

Ken:  They're terrific books.

Don:  Yeah.

Ken:  Those books are wonderful. And that guy was pilloried mercilessly by the British Press especially, when he was alive.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

Ken:  He had to leave, in fact. He went first to Ireland to get away from the press, and then he went to Canada.

Don:  Canada.

Ken:  Because they just wouldn't leave him alone.

ZS:  Calgary.

Don:  Calgary, he was living in. Yeah, yeah. I hear ZS in the background. I take it we've all read those books.

ZS:  I read the first 7 as they were coming through the publisher.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  In the 1960's.

Don:  Yeah.

Ken:  Wow.

Don:  Yeah. I said, many years ago, didn't I? [Chuckles] Have you completed what you wanted to say, Ken? I didn't mean to cut you off there…

Ken:  Yes. I just wanted to add / I just wanted to emphasize to the new listener the importance of what ZS was bringing out tonight. This was a very important topic. You won't find this anywhere / written anywhere, and I'm sure even people in the government and the military are going to pay attention to this show. What he's bringing up is extremely important information. And I'm so glad that he did such a wonderful job broaching this subject tonight.

Don:  Mm-hmm. Well, we have many, many listeners in the military around the world, so we salute you all. And this is known in science. Certain circles of science are aware of this. Nikola Tesla operated in that realm constantly. And I wanted to mention one thing, and maybe get ZS to respond. I've always sensed that, and it makes perfect sense - not to overuse the word - that when we're intuiting things and we're tapping into multi-dimensional realities (those of us that live and, let's say, nurture our discernment; and that happens by seeking the truth about yourself and about all things), as you gain knowledge you become more conscious and more susceptible to discerning the other dimensions. Now, how far you're going to be able to do that is, I think, a direct result of how much devotion you put into the practice. It's not that you have to work at anything, except going within, and then bringing out what's already inside you.

We're designed to resonate with these energies you're talking about. And these dimensions permeate each other. It's not like walking up a ladder, per se, that the 4th dimension is in some particular part of space. It interfaces with the other dimensions. They all…

ZS:  They all dovetail together.

Don:  Yes. That's the point I wanted to make. Do you want to expound on that in the sense of…

ZS:  Well, yeah. The 4th dimension is permeating us. It's a ghost permeating through our physical body, and it is the auric body around that some people can see. But also various Kirlian photography can take pictures of the 4th dimension.

Don:  And the aetheric body, too.

ZS:  The aetheric body, yeah. And we do not have equipment right now to photograph the 5th-dimensional body, but it'd be a very large body around encompassing the 4th-dimensional body. So, it's a nesting doll of different energies, one around the other, around the other, around the other, holding the conscious awareness into the physical dimension.

Don: Mm-hmm. Do you feel that the perception of multi-dimensionality, or higher dimensions, is commensurate with harmonization with those frequencies? In other words, if you're living in a state of discord…

ZS:  You wouldn't be able to connect with your higher self.

Don:  Yes. Exactly. So, folks, ladies and gentlemen, when you think about what ZS just said, if you focus yourself on blending with the universe and under-connecting with it / understanding it, and acting upon that, rather than just some obtuse thing that's off to the side. And you're interested for 5 minutes in looking at it and then you don't get your results, so you turn away and you say, "Well, there's nothing there. That doesn't work." - it doesn't happen that way.

ZS:  No.

Don:  You have to put intention, and you have to become devoted and disciplined at it. But it's not difficult to do - is it, ZS?

ZS:  No… Well, it's many years of work, though. It's also, you have to detoxify your thought field and also your physical body to be able to accept the energies and work with them easily. If you're trying to force yourself to work with the higher dimensions, it'd be like knocking your head against a brick wall. And a lot of people who are new to trying to get into the information as fast as they can, do knock their head against a brick wall. And often they will give up.

Don:  Mm-hmm. There are those that… it's like a person that will go to a psychic. And I'm not saying there aren't good, or well-intentioned psychics out there, but they go to the psychic to get answers about themselves. And they give their power away, you see.

ZS:  Right. And they should be able through their own inner meditation - their thinking meditation - be able to remember who they are. A lot of the information comes through with a triggered emotion.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  Whether it be joy or peace or happiness. And when you fully encompass that emotion, then you remember and you pierce through the veil and look into the next dimension, and get a glimpse of what's actually happening around you.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  A psychic is usually somebody who has that type of ability, but they / only a few psychics actually can work with the higher dimensional energy, and work into the dimensions in a meaningful way to bring that information to others, so that they will understand it and work with it.

Don:  Yes.

ZS:  So, it's a balancing act.

Don:  It's a matter of integrity and intention, too.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  If your goal is to get rich by telling people things they want to hear, whether they're true or not, you're just creating a lot of karma for yourself.

ZS:  Yeah. You have to answer for your lies.

Don:  But the person who's allowing the other to make all the decisions for them is also creating karma for themself, too.

ZS:  Yeah. It's a tangle.

Don:  They have to come back eventually and learn responsibility, don't they?

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  Or, and that may occur within this lifetime…

ZS:  Yeah. There's a lot of instant karma happening in this time period.

Don:  Yeah. Exactly. Which is, I think, the counter to what's being done to us.

ZS:  Well, more perspective on karma is actually that it's the higher-self teaching the physical conscious awareness what the truth is. And it becomes a school of hard knocks when you are not seeing the answers properly, or you're cutting the answers off from your own consciousness, and therefore you end up with heavy karma.

Don:  Or paying attention.

ZS:  Or paying attention, yeah. What you call heavy karma, but actually is your higher self trying to get through to you.

Don:  Yeah. Well, I use the term loosely. A lot of people, you know, it's the law of cause and effect at work.

ZS:  Right. What goes around comes around.

Don:  Yeah. And merry-go-rounds do that, too. [Chuckles]

ZS:  And a lot of people are on the merry-go-round in this respect. They send a lot of time going nowhere.

Don:  Yeah. And who's powering that merry-go-round? Or, what is powering that merry-go-round?

ZS:  Well of course, the whole educational system that's been set up through the reptilian control of the planet is keeping people spinning their wheels.

Don:  It's a belief system, isn't it, really?

ZS:  Yes. Yes, it is.

Don:  Yeah. I think they… And it's even more so than that, it's indoctrination. It's not really educational. There is nothing in education that's empowering the true essence of a human being.

ZS:  Mm-hmm. I had to leave the university when I realized there was nothing there for me. I had to follow my teacher, who actually is the inner-self. I was fortunate to be at the stage in my life that I could hear what he had to say. And I'm saying mainly the same words and the same expressions that he gave to me 40 years ago.

Don:  Mm-hmm. Did you give him a name, or…?

ZS:  David Light-Starr Livingstone.

Don:  I see.

ZS:  He was born in Kingston, Ontario, in 1920. And he's another person who met up with Walter Russell

Don:  Yes. We've discussed Russell on some past shows recently.

ZS:  And immediately I understood where Russell was coming from. He also, David Livingstone, also met up with Einstein in 1955 (just before Einstein died), at Princeton University. He also met up with Yogananda in 1951, in Southern California, before Yogananda shuffled off the mortal coil. And… many of those people who were hidden, who carry conscious awareness, during that time period, when meeting up with Yogananda, also met up with George Van Tassel and was out in Joshua Tree, in the desert behind Los Angeles there, with George Van Tassel and Bob Beck talking to a UFO. Talking to…

Don:  To the UFO or to the people in it?

ZS:  To the people in it.

Don:  Oh, okay. [Chuckles]

ZS:  … But he actually had to flee back to Canada a couple of years later, when they found out he didn't have any… He didn't have a Green Card. He didn't have a Pink Card. He didn't have any Card. [Chuckles]

Don:  I think they're handing out Pink Cards now, aren’t they?

ZS:  Yeah.

Don:  You know, you mentioned Paramhansa Yogananda. Don’t you find it interesting that someone from an Eastern part of the world - the Far East, we'll say, which is primarily Buddhist or Hindu - spoke and prayed and composed prayers devoted to Christ, and to the Christ consciousness.

ZS:  It's very interesting. Well, if you read the book by… The Masters of the Far East, by Sprague? [Baird Thomas Spalding 1872-1953] I'm forgetting his name right now. There's a series of 6 books, that were written in the 1910's / 1920's, where this man traveled to the Himalayas - Nepal and into Tibet - and actually met up with Christ and other Masters of that era, or that age, and living and working in the area where they call Huayna and the higher valleys of the Himalayas and the Ganges.

Don:  Mm-hmm.

ZS:  And so, there's a hidden tradition of people who've hidden away where the whole rest of the world is dispossessed of its spiritual power. But hidden in the high valleys away from the armies / away from those who'd try to kill them, are Masters who know the answers. And they could be living right down the street from you in Cleveland there. In fact, I do know that there are some living near you.

Don:  There's one at my place. No, I'm just kidding.

ZS:  That's you, isn't it? [Laughter]

Ken:  Well, actually, it's one of his animals, but we won't go into that today. [Chuckles] If I just might add something, though, because I just wanted to, since you brought up the story of George Van Tassel and Yogananda, etc., ZS. I had spent about 2 weeks in Joshua Tree (I think it was 2002, the summer of 2002), and I spent a long time interviewing a man named Daniel Boone, who may still be alive. I'm not sure. He was…

Don:  He was a man. He was a real man.

Ken:  He was a close associate… Yeah, his real name is Daniel Boone. He was a close associate of both George Van Tassel and, in fact, he was his principle, let's say, right-hand man during all the years that he was working on / all the years that they had the meetings there at Giant Rock and they were building The Integratron. Daniel Boone was his right-hand man throughout that time, but what's interesting is Daniel Boone's earlier work, if you will, was with Yogananda's group. He was definitely a disciple of Yogananda and there was a lot of wonderful information about Daniel in a book that recently was sent to me by my good friend, Tim Hicks. The name of the book is Christ Consciousness, and it's written by a man named Paulsen.

Don:  Mm-hmm. Yes, I…

Ken:  Are you familiar with the book?

Don:  Yes. I have it.

Ken:  Oh. Isn't that something? Well, you'll read a great deal about the early years there with Yogananda. And Daniel Boone's name comes up again, and again, and again. And I did quite a bit of interviewing with Daniel in the summer of 2002, and some day I want to put that whole story together. He told me wonderful stories. You know… Paulsen married one of the daughters of George Van Tassel, as did Daniel Boone. So, there's a familial connection there with George's life, but it's a wonderful story. And the fact that it's tied in with Yogananda makes it even more extraordinary. Daniel is as much a, let's say, average man as anybody I've known. When I was out there, the whole time I was interviewing him, he likes to drink beer and he would sit out and bare-chested outside his trailer and drinking a beer the whole time he's talking. So, he's a very down-to-earth, salt-of-the-earth-type guy. And yet, he has this strong connection / this connection with Yogananda and Kriya Yoga and the whole nine yards.

Daniel Boone went into the Korean War and he had a visitation / a manifestation of Yogananda on the day he died. And Yogananda, as you both well know, I'm sure, predicted well in advance / some months in advance that he was going to leave. And he picked a particular date there in which he was giving a talk in a hotel in Los Angeles to depart. This man was able to consciously depart his body. He had an immense amount of, let's say, spiritual advancement. And after he had died, the medical examiner, who looked after his body over the next two or three weeks, found and wrote a report to the effect that his body did not corrupt. In other words, it did not enter the normal stages of…

Don:  Decay.

Ken:  Decay. Exactly. And they buried him in that state. And he, in fact, I went to visit his gravesite some years ago. He's up at Forest Lawn. And my guess is that if they would open his casket, they would find him perfectly preserved. So, I just wanted to add those thoughts about Yogananda and George Van Tassel and Daniel Boone.

Don:  Yeah. I appreciate that. Well, gentlemen, we're about out of time. I want to give each of you a one-minute [Laughter] to make a closing comment. Leave our listening audience with a feeling that there are solutions - there are solutions. You've got to be way outside the box, folks, to see this. Okay? But it's possible. The music hopefully took you there tonight.

Ken:  Yeah. Absolutely. Let me just conclude with that. That was the point of the show… There's going to be a lot of really big deal things that are going to happen over the next weeks and months. There's definitely going to be large political upheavals; big things might happen; Obama might be kicked out of office before 2012. I mean, there's going to be big things happening. There might be major Earth changes, but if the ones that are being artificially created (like perhaps the ChristChurch earthquakes recently were artificially created), we can effect that. We can affect that with our thoughts. So, if we don't want the bad guys to be ripping the New Madrid Fault from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico, we have to think about that. We can thwart their plans. We can throw a monkey wrench into all their plans by merely thinking positive thoughts about a positive outcome. We're not going to have a major break / earthquake in the New Madrid Fault. California is also not going to have a major quake, which they've been planning for quite some time. And I put in a special request to some special friends to see to it, since I'm here [Chuckle], that California remains in tact. So, we can address, and we can change, and we can thwart these negative agendas. So, you've got to engage, though. You've got to actually try to do it. Don't just passively observe. Get into the game. Think positively and start thinking about what you're going to actively do to change the picture.

Don:  Well said.

Ken: And I'll stop there.

Don:  Yeah. I agree. I agree with you, Ken. ZS, your comment, or comments. [Chuckling]

ZS:  … I'm really bursting with hope that there's being an incredible display of spiritual power from the elemental kingdom to demonstrate the healing of the Earth. I know that with the amount of ACE that's been given to the air elementals, there'll be some very incredible pictures of glowing / very large glowing orbs in the sky in the next few months. They are going to be transmuting chemtrails at a very, very quick rate, as if the chemtrails weren't even laid out in the sky. They'll be gone. And so, that toxicity will be gone. And other toxicities will be taken from inside the Earth. And giving ACE back to the Earth elementals, who've actually maintained possession of it deep within the Earth for a long period of time, will make it possible for them to do work on the fault lines - the New Madrid Fault lines and the San Andreas - and relieve pressure through the application of this substance from the Sun. They can melt and make small earthquakes instead of having large earthquakes.

Don:  Yes… Ken mentioned ChristChurch. Don't you find in interesting that a town named ChristChurch

ZS:  There's a lot of beautiful churches that are now…

Don:  Suffered this. See? This is - it's spiritual warfare, is what this is.

ZS:  Yes.

Don:  Ultimately. Tonight we talked about the nature spirits, the Spirit that's permeating the whole of the universe - the whole of the creation - and you have that within you, ladies and gentlemen. That's in your heart, aching to get out. The answers you're looking for; the things that will make you happy; the things that will help you understand who you are and who everyone else is - not all the answers, but as much as you're willing to put into it - that's what you're going to get back. Both of my guests alluded to that, that if you put out the good vibes / the positive thoughts - but these have to come from within you, and they're aching to get out through your heart center. If you learn to open up your heart center, you can connect with your thoughts. Your thoughts now become of a higher vibration. And they become multi-dimensional. And you become a whole being - not some thing that's doing - you become a being, who you were created to be, and even greater than that. There's no limitation on it, on who you can be, or who you can become.

Gentlemen, I don't mean to preach, but I've tried to summarize my feelings up. And you guys were excellent guests to have on the show to talk about these very difficult topics - difficult, because we're not paying attention to them, but simple when put to work. I want to thank you both for being on Evident Footprints. And this being a short month, and us having a limited number of shows this month, I won't see you guys until the next time on the show. Hopefully, you'll both come back in March. Can I pin you on that one?

Ken:  Oh sure. Of course, Don. Absolutely. And thank you for all your comments, as well, tonight. I really enjoyed hearing what you had to say, as well.

Don:  Well, yeah. Thank you. I'm torn, because the message I thought went so well with the music, and vice versa. Sometimes we need to listen to something that takes us out of these programs we're in. This repetition that you turn your car radio on, and you're going to hear the song on your way to work that you heard the night before coming home from work. You know, this addiction to the programming - we become addicted to that which is destroying us, or would destroy us. And we have to get back into the creative process.

I really appreciate what you've done. Again, ladies and gentlemen, Ken Adachi and Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone, you can read both of their work at Ken's website, educate-yourself.org. And they will be back in March. I can guarantee that. Gentlemen, have a good night, thanks for being on the show, and I look forward to the next time.

Ken:  Good night, Don.

ZS:  Good night.

Don:  Okay. Folks, that wraps it up. You've been listening to Evident Footprints on bbsradio.com, our guests, Ken Adachi and Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone. Special thanks to WindTalkers Radio Network for broadcasting Evident Footprints. Over at BBS Radio, we had Seth Hendrick on the sound. I want to thank Don and Doug Newsome for making Evident Footprints possible, and most of all you, the listening audience, for tuning in. Join me tomorrow night when my special guest will be my co-host, scientist / inventor, Jim Murray. In the meantime, I wish everyone a night filled with peace, love and light, and have a good night.

 


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